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barjoe comments on Apr 30, 2022:
He blocked me a long time ago along with the entire god fearing Conservative Atheist group. I only block people if they DM me trying to start an argument. I'm willing to scroll on, if you won't let me do that, I don't need your shit.
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 30, 2022:
That crazy motherfucker @GreenAtheist DM'd the fuck out of me before he blocked me. I still need to make the "I was blocked" post about that dumb fuckin' asshole.
I’m really enjoying this whole Build Back Better campaign.
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 30, 2022:
These are pictures of what shelves looked like under Trump for all the people dumb enough to think OP's pictures mean anything.
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 30, 2022:
@CourtJester Right there in my gallery dated March 12th, 2020, 3 years into Trump's presidency. What else ya got, wonderboy?
@alienbeing claims that... > "Is English a second language for you?
barjoe comments on Apr 28, 2022:
I think you are both being insufferable for arguing about a misplaced "is". I think it's inappropriate to call someone out by name publicly, especially over something so petty.
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 28, 2022:
@barjoe Eh, sometimes you gotta give it back to assholes like @Alienbeing...
EU: You can't use our payment system anymore Russia: OK then, if you want something from us, ...
Flyingsaucesir comments on Apr 28, 2022:
Russia is trying to get around the EU's sanctions by trying to force payment in rubles for Russian gas. (Those sanctions are completely justified. Russia invaded a European country, and is carrying out a bloody genocide there.) The EU refused to render its own sanctions toothless, so Putin ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 28, 2022:
Agreed! Well, all except that avoiding a global disaster business. That's not possible.
@alienbeing claims that... > "Is English a second language for you?
TheMiddleWay comments on Apr 28, 2022:
I can't stress this enough: ***if you're going to try and insult someone because English is their second language, for fucks sake at least proofread! :-)***
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 28, 2022:
@TheMiddleWay I always thought it was similar to "for Christ's sake"...
New delicious yet cheaper
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 27, 2022:
Wouldn't that be a Big Pickle?
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 28, 2022:
@AnneWimsey I think my friend and I are going to try to get them to make a couple for us this weekend. We're gonna get the meat patties on the side and then if it's no good, take off some of the pickles and add the meat.
New delicious yet cheaper
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 27, 2022:
Wouldn't that be a Big Pickle?
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 28, 2022:
@AnneWimsey It should probably be Mac sauce...
Opinion: The Republican blueprint to steal the 2024 election - CNN
FvckY0u comments on Apr 27, 2022:
republicans have a losing strategy against a weak incumbent. I predict the republicans will switch strategy before the election of 2024. I'm usually wrong about these sort of things but who knows.
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 27, 2022:
@darren316 But he didn't lose last election "it was stolen". And if he loses again, that one will have been "stolen too".
New delicious yet cheaper
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 27, 2022:
Wouldn't that be a Big Pickle?
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 27, 2022:
Either way, I'd probably try that sammy, it looks petty tasty.
Opinion: The Republican blueprint to steal the 2024 election - CNN
FvckY0u comments on Apr 27, 2022:
republicans have a losing strategy against a weak incumbent. I predict the republicans will switch strategy before the election of 2024. I'm usually wrong about these sort of things but who knows.
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 27, 2022:
@darren316 I would be shocked if he doesn't. He owns the Republican party. Why wouldn't he run?
Opinion: The Republican blueprint to steal the 2024 election - CNN
Organist1 comments on Apr 27, 2022:
A bloodless coup, as they have wanted all along. I wish Pres. Biden would only serve one term, and a strong candidate would run in 2024. I don't mind much of what Biden had done, and blame Manchin/Sinema for much of the failures. Still, we need someone inspiring to take the lead, and especially to ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 27, 2022:
@Organist1 Won't matter, is he does they'll just do the same thing when Trump gets back in and then we'll be a dictatorship after that...
Opinion: The Republican blueprint to steal the 2024 election - CNN
FvckY0u comments on Apr 27, 2022:
republicans have a losing strategy against a weak incumbent. I predict the republicans will switch strategy before the election of 2024. I'm usually wrong about these sort of things but who knows.
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 27, 2022:
You don't think Trump will run?
Opinion: The Republican blueprint to steal the 2024 election - CNN
Organist1 comments on Apr 27, 2022:
A bloodless coup, as they have wanted all along. I wish Pres. Biden would only serve one term, and a strong candidate would run in 2024. I don't mind much of what Biden had done, and blame Manchin/Sinema for much of the failures. Still, we need someone inspiring to take the lead, and especially to ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 27, 2022:
I agree; they won't. And it can't *just* be the younger people causing this approval rating. I think a large segment of the population voted against Trump, and, given he's not *currently* in office *currently* fucking up their lives, their goldfish-like attention span may just make them complacent enough to not go out and vote against him again. Let's also not forget that Republicans will have 2 years after the no-Trump-opposition-vote midterms where they're likely to control Congress to enact voter suppression laws and completely neuter Biden from doing a single good thing for people to make them want to vote for a Democrat. This country is fuuuuuuuuuuuuucked.
Sex 101 for the evangelicals
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 27, 2022:
Why do people always block out the person's name on one of these things? They posted it publicly, they deserve to have everyone make fun of them for how incredibly stupid they are.
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 27, 2022:
@Lorajay I'm not sure what that means. If it's posted on the internet, especially on a social media site like Facebook which grants them "a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any [IP] content that you post", I don't really see how it's not shareable.
Sex 101 for the evangelicals
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 27, 2022:
Why do people always block out the person's name on one of these things? They posted it publicly, they deserve to have everyone make fun of them for how incredibly stupid they are.
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 27, 2022:
@Lorajay Oh, sorry, I didn't mean you. Just in general. Why are they protecting these individuals?
You can be just about anything you feel you are these days.
puff comments on Apr 24, 2022:
You always could be whatever you feel, and those that don't fit the societal box, who are not what you would normally expect in a population, are not catered for. Nothing new but with 24hr instant media satisfaction it is recognised. But understand this is your society eg if you go to Thailand, ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 27, 2022:
@TheMiddleWay Okay, I guess I'm unsure of your point then and how it relates. Are you saying that society is likely to never accept people like me and it would require some type of legislation (which I can't even theorize, and even if I could, could never imagine being a cause legislators would care about let alone introduce) to move it along? Also, I don't think there's a lot of legislation that protects trans individuals, but the acceptance of it has grown tremendously over the past several years.
You can be just about anything you feel you are these days.
puff comments on Apr 24, 2022:
You always could be whatever you feel, and those that don't fit the societal box, who are not what you would normally expect in a population, are not catered for. Nothing new but with 24hr instant media satisfaction it is recognised. But understand this is your society eg if you go to Thailand, ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 27, 2022:
@TheMiddleWay Yes, but those campaigns either take, or they don't. The campaigning itself (or even a law) isn't the acceptance by society. I mean, you can't even Google search for stuff about dying/suicide without the first responses being crisis intervention. This does not seem like a thing that's going to be accepted anytime soon. Even the people that are on board almost exclusively rely on the caveat that the individual needs to be terminal.
Who agrees?
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 26, 2022:
I couldn't care less about Twitter. I hope it dies in his hands. It's a shitty, awful platform and no one should use it. That said, to claim Biden *didn't* save America simply by what he did before he even took office is stupid as fuck. 4 more years of Trump would almost assuredly have ended the ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 27, 2022:
@CuddyCruiser They're all so fuckin' stupid, he'd probably just tell them he needs the guns to fight the pedophiles and they would happily turn them over, that way no one *took* their guns...
You can be just about anything you feel you are these days.
DenoPenno comments on Apr 25, 2022:
I don't want to die unexpectedly as soon as possible but when it does happen I don't want it to hurt. My uncle died at the breakfast table when his blood vessel broke and all his blood emptied out inside of him. He looked funny for a minute and then dropped dead quickly. They claim he didn't feel ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 25, 2022:
Absolutely. If I'm ever able to attempt, and I somehow fail (which would be extremely unlikely) I would want whoever found me to put a pillow over my face and finish the job.
You can be just about anything you feel you are these days.
puff comments on Apr 24, 2022:
You always could be whatever you feel, and those that don't fit the societal box, who are not what you would normally expect in a population, are not catered for. Nothing new but with 24hr instant media satisfaction it is recognised. But understand this is your society eg if you go to Thailand, ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 25, 2022:
We don't say to trans individuals, however, they they need to tolerate others instead of others tolerating them. We slap them on the covers of magazines and write laws that make them feel more comfortable. We change forms and websites to include more genders for people to pick from. We bend over backward to be inclusive.
You can be just about anything you feel you are these days.
KKGator comments on Apr 24, 2022:
Wow! That's A LOT. However, I completely acknowledge, without judgment, that you (and your friend) have every right to feel as you do. We ARE conditioned to believe that wishing for the end of our lives is "wrong". Personally, I do not believe in the so-called "sanctity of life". I think ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 24, 2022:
I wholeheartedly agree. People, especially kids, killing themselves because of the way *other people* make them feel is awful. And anyone feeling like killing themselves to escape that, even though they'd want to live if it wasn't for that, should seek help and I hope they get it. That said, there is no "help" for me.
Alone with depression
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 23, 2022:
I'm right there with you, only I don't describe myself as depressed. I think I'm just aware of the nature of reality and how pointless and shitty everything is. I so very much do not want to be alive anymore that I'm thinking that as my health deteriorates and the likely barriers to suicide go ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 24, 2022:
@Betty Then you have a fundamental misunderstanding about belief. I can't choose to believe there's intention and purpose to human life any more than a religious person can choose to stop believing in their god or an atheist person can choose to start.
Alone with depression
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 23, 2022:
I'm right there with you, only I don't describe myself as depressed. I think I'm just aware of the nature of reality and how pointless and shitty everything is. I so very much do not want to be alive anymore that I'm thinking that as my health deteriorates and the likely barriers to suicide go ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 23, 2022:
@Betty For the sake of argument I'm going to pretend that people can choose both of these things (unlike the neither of them I believe people can actually choose), but why wouldn't my current actual beliefs about the nature of reality (that have resulted in my desire to die instead of live up to my "potential") not be exactly like the beliefs that religious people hold?
Alone with depression
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 23, 2022:
I'm right there with you, only I don't describe myself as depressed. I think I'm just aware of the nature of reality and how pointless and shitty everything is. I so very much do not want to be alive anymore that I'm thinking that as my health deteriorates and the likely barriers to suicide go ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 23, 2022:
@Betty But you said it was because of my wasted potential. If I continued to live, as it seems I've been stuck here years after I was ready to die, but didn't participate in any progress or solution (as you've defined it, I suppose) wouldn't that mean it was a "choice" just like a Christian for instance?
Alone with depression
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 23, 2022:
I'm right there with you, only I don't describe myself as depressed. I think I'm just aware of the nature of reality and how pointless and shitty everything is. I so very much do not want to be alive anymore that I'm thinking that as my health deteriorates and the likely barriers to suicide go ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 23, 2022:
@Betty Oh, if I felt there was a worthwhile goal for humanity or a purpose for our existence, I would agree that I would be better equipped than the average person to move us toward that goal, so it's not me I don't believe in. I just lack the fundamentally necessary belief that there is intention and purpose to life for me to concern myself with my potential and contribution. And if you feel sorry for me for my wasted potential and my views that preclude happiness, why wouldn't you also feel sorry for the atheist that precludes himself from the happiness that comes with a belief there's everlasting life in heaven with god and all of your deceased loved ones?
Alone with depression
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 23, 2022:
I'm right there with you, only I don't describe myself as depressed. I think I'm just aware of the nature of reality and how pointless and shitty everything is. I so very much do not want to be alive anymore that I'm thinking that as my health deteriorates and the likely barriers to suicide go ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 23, 2022:
@Betty Do you feel sorry for the atheist that doesn't have the comfort of a belief in god and an afterlife?
Alone with depression
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 23, 2022:
I'm right there with you, only I don't describe myself as depressed. I think I'm just aware of the nature of reality and how pointless and shitty everything is. I so very much do not want to be alive anymore that I'm thinking that as my health deteriorates and the likely barriers to suicide go ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 23, 2022:
@Betty See, you have this romanticized image of human life in your head. How I view the progress of human life (which, by the way, "progress" is extraordinarily subjective and a little egocentric considering most every advancement humans have ever made has resulted in suffering for most non-human and in a lot of cases most human life on Earth like nuclear weapons, poisons, arguably plastic in general, etc.) and the potential one has to be a contributing factor to these things is how I assume you might view the potential to be a really good water bottle flipper. People can have a lot of potential to flip bottles and have them land standing up. And they could get really good at it. But if someone didn't use or maximize that potential it likely wouldn't matter to you at all. You probably wouldn't even know about it to begin with, but if someone told you, you probably couldn't care less. Because being able to flip a water bottle and have it land standing up is pointless and meaningless. I probably sound like an asshole, but I really don't mean to. I'm just trying to describe how I view the world and life in general.
Alone with depression
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 23, 2022:
I'm right there with you, only I don't describe myself as depressed. I think I'm just aware of the nature of reality and how pointless and shitty everything is. I so very much do not want to be alive anymore that I'm thinking that as my health deteriorates and the likely barriers to suicide go ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 23, 2022:
@Betty Sure enough that I don't even care if it's not. Also, to think otherwise is to disregard everything we know about evolutionarily biology.
Alone with depression
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 23, 2022:
I'm right there with you, only I don't describe myself as depressed. I think I'm just aware of the nature of reality and how pointless and shitty everything is. I so very much do not want to be alive anymore that I'm thinking that as my health deteriorates and the likely barriers to suicide go ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 23, 2022:
@Betty But all of life and evolution are accidental, thus any role I could play is ultimately irrelevant.
Alone with depression
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 23, 2022:
I'm right there with you, only I don't describe myself as depressed. I think I'm just aware of the nature of reality and how pointless and shitty everything is. I so very much do not want to be alive anymore that I'm thinking that as my health deteriorates and the likely barriers to suicide go ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 23, 2022:
@Betty Progress toward? To what point and purpose?
Alone with depression
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 23, 2022:
I'm right there with you, only I don't describe myself as depressed. I think I'm just aware of the nature of reality and how pointless and shitty everything is. I so very much do not want to be alive anymore that I'm thinking that as my health deteriorates and the likely barriers to suicide go ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 23, 2022:
@Betty What problem am I helping to solve staying alive? Certainly not global warming. Not really even sure what other non-humancentric problem we could be talking about. Or why I should care at all about any transient human problem out there.
Alone with depression
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 23, 2022:
I'm right there with you, only I don't describe myself as depressed. I think I'm just aware of the nature of reality and how pointless and shitty everything is. I so very much do not want to be alive anymore that I'm thinking that as my health deteriorates and the likely barriers to suicide go ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 23, 2022:
@Betty I'm saying precisely the opposite: it doesn't matter how much I know *because* life is pointless. And it's no more sad to want to believe there's purpose to life to try to be happy than it is to want to believe in God and an afterlife to try to be happy. In any case, however, wanting something you can't have so you can try to be happy is a proper recipe for misery.
Alone with depression
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 23, 2022:
I'm right there with you, only I don't describe myself as depressed. I think I'm just aware of the nature of reality and how pointless and shitty everything is. I so very much do not want to be alive anymore that I'm thinking that as my health deteriorates and the likely barriers to suicide go ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 23, 2022:
@Betty Nope. Don't care. Seen enough. Actually, the more we learn, the sadder our current state and trajectory becomes, which is a mind fuck of its own because we had no choice in the matter anyway. Also, to me, if the opposite perspective is nonsense, the middle ground isn't the "better" or "more likely" scenario. For illustration purposes one perspective is 'skin color is irrelevant' while another is 'white people are superior'. The middle ground between those two is not better than 'skin color is irrelevant'.
Alone with depression
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 23, 2022:
I'm right there with you, only I don't describe myself as depressed. I think I'm just aware of the nature of reality and how pointless and shitty everything is. I so very much do not want to be alive anymore that I'm thinking that as my health deteriorates and the likely barriers to suicide go ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 23, 2022:
@Betty It's nothing more than an indication that I am an agnostic atheist. Zero percent of me believes there was a creator of anything or a purpose or intention to life. I can't "know" that.
Alone with depression
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 23, 2022:
I'm right there with you, only I don't describe myself as depressed. I think I'm just aware of the nature of reality and how pointless and shitty everything is. I so very much do not want to be alive anymore that I'm thinking that as my health deteriorates and the likely barriers to suicide go ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 23, 2022:
@Betty All of life. Life itself is an accident, and there is no intention or purpose to any of it. *You* may have temporary problems. I don't. At least none that I'd think death are the appropriate escape plan for. I actually have a fairly good life on paper. However, since life is pointless, is a simple equation of do you enjoy your life more than you hate it. I don't. There's never a time I'd rather continue to wake up and participate in this world than simply remain unconscious forever (i.e. dead).
Alone with depression
Flyingsaucesir comments on Apr 22, 2022:
Do you absolutely have to live in Alabama? Maybe it's time for a move...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 23, 2022:
I don't know, Tom and Tri have both blocked me, so I'm of the opinion you're probably not going to get anything of value or rationality from either of them...
Why do some people feel a need to always be insulting some other individual or group?
Matias comments on Apr 21, 2022:
My problem with this kind of statement is that nowadays what counts as an insult is not defined by a general consensus in society, but by the "insulted" people themselves. Given that a lot of people today seem to live (and sometimes even make a living !) as bleeding wounds, an innocuous remark may...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 21, 2022:
@skado It actually is. His reply points to the logical fallacy contained in your OP begging the question, i.e. *do* people actually feel the need to *always* be insulting, or is it the ones who feel slighted the people who always feel like they're being insulted even when they're not?
Hot guy on dating site: "Hey let's meetup." Me: "Ok. How about Odenton?
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 21, 2022:
What life must be like for gorgeous people...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 21, 2022:
@UrsiMajor Oh, don't get me started on knockout women dating loser guys. I see it constantly. The only thing I can think is that these women either have absolutely zero self-esteem or like to be treated like shit. Two girls I work with who are total smokeshows both have boyfriends that took new jobs that moved them away WITHOUT EVEN TALKING TO THEM ABOUT IT FIRST. One of them was a move from Ohio to Texas. And SHE goes to see HIM every couple weeks (he hasn't come back once). I just can't wrap my head around it. The other one's bf didn't even do a single thing for her for Christmas or her birthday. Really, what the fuck? I would treat either of these girls like a queen, but I wouldn't get a second look.
Why do some people feel a need to always be insulting some other individual or group?
nogod4me comments on Apr 21, 2022:
Sometimes it's not an insult as much as it is voicing the truth and observation.
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 21, 2022:
I can't improve on what you've said. Perfect replies.
Happy 420 everyone! I made a twitter poll! Check out the progress and participate on twitter! Also ...
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 20, 2022:
I can't vote in your poll, but unless legalization also carried with it the provision that employers couldn't test for it, which I doubt would ever happen, then it being legal is irrelevant to me. My job tests for nicotine and that's always been legal. If however, he made it legal and unlawful to ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 20, 2022:
@darren316 It's such bullshit. I can get blackout drunk the night before work, and as long as the alcohol is clear from my urine, it's fine according to the rules, but if you smoke one joint in Jamaica while on a week and a half long vacation where it's perfectly legal, nope, you're a drug addict and you have to go to counseling and submit to weekly plus random drug tests for like a year or something crazy and you can't even drink alcohol while you're at home anymore. Makes zero sense. I think the thing I hate most about this shitty world is rules that don't make sense. If there was a candidate that would attack those kinds of rules every day in office, I think I'd have to vote for them even if they were a Republican. (Then again, if they wouldn't stand for any rules that didn't make sense, they wouldn't be anti-gay, anti-woman, anti-vaxx, or any of the other antis that make me hate that party so much...)
Whoever is in charge of Vegan/Vegetarian World must be a snowflaky-ass bitch.
MaryChristmas comments on Apr 19, 2022:
You're not a vegan or vegetarian, so why would you go pissing in someone else's pool?
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 19, 2022:
@MaryChristmas Yeah, I hear that crazy MF invites the ban hammer from lots of people, so it's not surprising you clicked the block button straight away. And I wouldn't doubt they are less closed-minded than Christians on Facebook, but closed-minded nonetheless (at least the person who blocked me). It's entirely possible, however, that other members of the group are completely rational and willing and able to discuss the nuances of diet choices that are actually the best for animals. Unfortunately, I was banned by a spineless twit before we could realize the possibility of a meaningful discussion.
Whoever is in charge of Vegan/Vegetarian World must be a snowflaky-ass bitch.
MaryChristmas comments on Apr 19, 2022:
You're not a vegan or vegetarian, so why would you go pissing in someone else's pool?
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 19, 2022:
@MaryChristmas I mean, I guess they have the ability to block me, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't attempt to do what I think is right or call them out for being snowflakes when they use that block just to avoid logical criticism.
Whoever is in charge of Vegan/Vegetarian World must be a snowflaky-ass bitch.
Lorajay comments on Apr 18, 2022:
If you were name-calling in that forum like you are here I would block you too.
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 19, 2022:
You see the kind of lunatics we're dealing with here?
Whoever is in charge of Vegan/Vegetarian World must be a snowflaky-ass bitch.
MaryChristmas comments on Apr 19, 2022:
You're not a vegan or vegetarian, so why would you go pissing in someone else's pool?
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 19, 2022:
@MaryChristmas Probably not with the people posting the misleading content, but maybe with any one in the room that's sitting on the fence... But shouldn't we both be entitled to attempt to protect our interests in any or as many [legal] ways we want?
Whoever is in charge of Vegan/Vegetarian World must be a snowflaky-ass bitch.
Lorajay comments on Apr 18, 2022:
If you were name-calling in that forum like you are here I would block you too.
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 19, 2022:
@GreenAtheist If this is the best rebuttal the vegan group can muster, no wonder they had to block me. 🤣
Whoever is in charge of Vegan/Vegetarian World must be a snowflaky-ass bitch.
MaryChristmas comments on Apr 19, 2022:
You're not a vegan or vegetarian, so why would you go pissing in someone else's pool?
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 19, 2022:
None of us are religious, but most of us challenge shit religious people say, especially when it can affect you via legislation. If you were not aware, vegan and vegetarian groups *do* attempt to enact legislation that can affect what can be produced, bought, and thus the prices for these products as well. Don't know why it's that crazy for me to challenge logically unsupported statements...
I know most of you hate Facebook.
Fernapple comments on Apr 18, 2022:
Yep, this is one of the reasons for hating FB.
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 19, 2022:
@Fernapple Oh, for a proposal.
Whoever is in charge of Vegan/Vegetarian World must be a snowflaky-ass bitch.
Garban comments on Apr 18, 2022:
Are you vegan or vegetarian?
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 18, 2022:
@Garban Probably not because they probably block anyone who isn't in lockstep with their ideology. I'm starting to remember the last conversation I had in that group that must have gotten me blocked. It was about the most effective path to protecting animals and how being strictly vegan *isn't* the best if you have the ability or opportunity to source some or all of your calories from waste streams (freeganism) even if those calories happen to be animal product or byproduct. And you are probably correct. Wildgreens has me blocked. Most likely that person is an irrational asshole. I am. But mostly people who are irrational. If you were presented with the above argument that challenged your beliefs/statements and your response was to block me instead of formulate a counterargument, you don't think that's an irrational response? Imagine how fucked up the world would be if everyone had a magic remote that could permanently mute everyone they ever even slightly disagreed with.
Whoever is in charge of Vegan/Vegetarian World must be a snowflaky-ass bitch.
Garban comments on Apr 18, 2022:
Are you vegan or vegetarian?
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 18, 2022:
@Garban So you have to be a thing the group is about and be a solid contributor (even though that seems like a subjective standard) to be permitted to have an issue being blocked? I think if you're going to post your point of view or supposedly persuasive info, you should be willing to defend it against criticism. You don't think those who actively block people to solidify their echo chamber are fragile little snowflakes?
I know most of you hate Facebook.
Fernapple comments on Apr 18, 2022:
Yep, this is one of the reasons for hating FB.
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 18, 2022:
I mean, I hate Facebook, but what did I miss that's so bad about that?
Whoever is in charge of Vegan/Vegetarian World must be a snowflaky-ass bitch.
Garban comments on Apr 18, 2022:
Are you vegan or vegetarian?
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 18, 2022:
Why do you ask?
Whoever is in charge of Vegan/Vegetarian World must be a snowflaky-ass bitch.
Lorajay comments on Apr 18, 2022:
If you were name-calling in that forum like you are here I would block you too.
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 18, 2022:
Nope, only name-call those pussies after they blocked me.
Some sound advice for the OP.
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 18, 2022:
Also, if battered, deep-fried heart of something that was alive tastes good, I'm game for that too...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 18, 2022:
@MaryChristmas Other things that are battered, deep-fried, and amazing: Onion rings Swiss cheese Chicken Shrimp Hot dogs Hush puppies
How offensive is the word "cunt"?
LizZyG comments on Apr 18, 2022:
"I am a white cis woman, those are not equivalent." And that vote/statement informs you of absolutely nothing. The two terms -- their histories (from various perspectives) & situational uses (vastly different and multitudinous ways and relationships involved) by different individuals (across ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 18, 2022:
This poll was not my idea. I was asked to post it by a woman who said the two words were "exactly the same". I generally use it for men, but when a woman is deserving, so be it. Basically, however, the sex or gender of the person is irrelevant when deciding whether or not they are deserving of an 'asshole' plus some shock value. You can call my philosophy bullshit, but I think if people think about it, they probably do the same thing. How offensive do people consider the terms 'dumb' and 'lame'? Probably not very. You can scale the rest for yourself. But as you've already admitted, not all words are equally offensive, so if you don't use marginalization of the group as the thing that determines how offensive a word is, please educate me and give me the proper way to evaluate words that some may take offense to. I'm all ears.
I still love Bill Maher.
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 16, 2022:
Started watching his new special on HBO and he begins saying some incredibly stupid shit about covid and masks. Didn't feel like having to listen to idiotic shit I couldn't respond to in any way, so I turned on Friends instead.
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 16, 2022:
@Robecology I have no problem with any type of equal time or both sides arguments, but he went off the deep end with the mask thing. Whoever he's talking to is not giving him accurate, logical information. He's succumbed to the irrational, illogical belief that if you have almost zero percent chance of dying from covid, then there's nothing to fear and no reason to mask up. It's patently false, clearly dangerous, and unbelievably stupid. Bill, I thought you were better than that.
It's tempting but I really don't think I could follow through. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 15, 2022:
I don't get it...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 16, 2022:
@MaryChristmas Oh, I was like is it a gingerbread house? WTF?
What a gas....
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 15, 2022:
What green and smells like pork?
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 16, 2022:
@Lizard_of_Ahaz Kermit's *fingers*
Anybody into meditation?
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 14, 2022:
The first one! 🤣 There are people at work that talk about crystals and how you have to cleanse them with moonlight. It sounds so batshit.
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 15, 2022:
@AnneWimsey Ah. 😜
Anybody into meditation?
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 14, 2022:
The first one! 🤣 There are people at work that talk about crystals and how you have to cleanse them with moonlight. It sounds so batshit.
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 15, 2022:
@AnneWimsey Oh, you don't really get what they're saying. It's so much worse than what you're thinking. They're not talking about *cleaning* them, they're talking about cleansing the "bad energy" that they sucked out of their body while wearing them and "recharging the good energy" in them. https://crystalvisions.net.au/blogs/an-introduction-to-crystal-grids/a-basic-guide-to-cleansing-your-crystals-with-the-power-of-the-moon
There is no one way to believe in determinism and there is no one way to believe in free will.
ChestRockfield comments on Jan 29, 2022:
Belief does not require choosing. In fact, it completely defies the notion of choice. Could you choose to start believing in God? In Santa Claus? That the sky is pink with orange polka dots? The rest of your post is exactly correct. People cannot choose whether or not to believe any given ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 14, 2022:
@Heraclitus I pity you.
Elon Musk About To Execute A Hostile Takeover Of Twitter | CNBC
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 14, 2022:
I don't blame him. That said, no one should be on Twitter or Facebook. Hopefully he'll buy it up, make it private, and everyone will quit using it.
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 14, 2022:
@barjoe Also, I generally don't give a single fuck about any news now, especially not enough that I'd need to know something urgently. An ICBM could be mid-flight headed directly for my bedroom and I wouldn't care one bit. That's actually news that I'd love and love to *not* know about.
Elon Musk About To Execute A Hostile Takeover Of Twitter | CNBC
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 14, 2022:
I don't blame him. That said, no one should be on Twitter or Facebook. Hopefully he'll buy it up, make it private, and everyone will quit using it.
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 14, 2022:
@barjoe Nope. A ban is a ban. I think they ban everything: IP, phone number, email, device ID. For a while when I'd accidentally click on a Twitter link it would ask me if I wanted to remove my post and submit to a temporary suspension. I told them they could go fuck themselves and that I don't want anything to do with a company that can't fairly judge what should be censored and what shouldn't. After several months of me refusing to remove my comment they stopped asking and it turned into a permanent ban. Fuck Twitter. I wouldn't use that piece of shit site even if I could. I don't use Facebook either even though I'm not banned. Fuck all that shit. It just reveals to me how fucking awful everyone in the world is and how much I hate them and it. Who needs more reminding of how fucking terrible the world is? I'm well aware at this point, thank you.
Elon Musk About To Execute A Hostile Takeover Of Twitter | CNBC
FearlessFly comments on Apr 14, 2022:
"This Is The End Of Democracy" . . . strawman fallacy Democracy existed long before twitter, it can exist long after.
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 14, 2022:
@barjoe You can't give billions of dollars to someone and expect it won't make them an asshole. That's why I was always confused about people's reaction to Bieber. It's like, people, you gave a fucking child hundreds of millions of dollars. OF COURSE he's a fucking asshole. I'm in my 40s and if you gave me even tens of millions of dollars I'd be an absolute fucking nightmare for so many people it would make your head spin.
Elon Musk About To Execute A Hostile Takeover Of Twitter | CNBC
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 14, 2022:
I don't blame him. That said, no one should be on Twitter or Facebook. Hopefully he'll buy it up, make it private, and everyone will quit using it.
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 14, 2022:
@barjoe Twitter is a pile of shit that has horrendous content moderation policies. I hope it fucking fails miserably. I don't know that I can really compare them because I think they're both absolute shit and my permanent ban from Twitter may taint my assessment.
First, a little background you need: I hate textspeak.
Fernapple comments on Apr 14, 2022:
The other thing that people should remember, at least here on this site, is that this is an international site, used by English speakers across the world, as well as many for whom English is a second language. Neither of those groups will share the same conventions and quirks of text speak or local...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 14, 2022:
@Fernapple Ah, that's a good point. Which ultimately is counterproductive because the goal is for everyone *to* understand your movement/group.
First, a little background you need: I hate textspeak.
Julie808 comments on Apr 14, 2022:
I think the older we are, perhaps the less we are familiar with some of the texting acronyms, I remember having to think pretty hard to figure out what people were trying to say IFKWIM. (haha) Often I'd have to look it up. As far as pronouns, I get a lot of business inquiries by email from ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 14, 2022:
That sounds like a nightmare. If I had to do that, I'd type up a form that asks a bunch of info you need anyway, and I'd include all the gender and pronoun questions on the form and make it a first priority.
First, a little background you need: I hate textspeak.
Fernapple comments on Apr 14, 2022:
The other thing that people should remember, at least here on this site, is that this is an international site, used by English speakers across the world, as well as many for whom English is a second language. Neither of those groups will share the same conventions and quirks of text speak or local...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 14, 2022:
For sure. I've heard that English is one of the hardest languages to learn because of all of the ridiculous rules and the more ridiculous exceptions to those ridiculous rules. Don't know why people need to complicate it even more. Language is a tool to covey meaning. Why do people want a shittier tool that doesn't work as well? Personally, I don't like wasting my time and if I'm going to bother to speak or write to someone, I'd prefer the message came across the way I meant it.
First, a little background you need: I hate textspeak.
barjoe comments on Apr 14, 2022:
tbh, iawy. inet slng is bs
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 14, 2022:
😒 Very funny.
I have been reading up on DNA memory, it seems the jury is out on whether past life experiences are ...
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 13, 2022:
While we may (or at least I, maybe people whose life work is evolutionarily biology have very simple answers) not know how instincts are learned or passed on, one thing I would rule out would be 'it's encoded on our DNA'. I mean, of it was already in our DNA, it would make sense how it was passed ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 13, 2022:
@Garban All of your DNA doesn't change. Cancerous growths can arise from improperly replicated DNA (like skin cancer resulting from a thymine dimer I think being paired with one adenine), so the cancer *itself* will be different, but that won't change all the strands of DNA in the rest of the tens of trillions of cells in your body.
I have been reading up on DNA memory, it seems the jury is out on whether past life experiences are ...
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 13, 2022:
While we may (or at least I, maybe people whose life work is evolutionarily biology have very simple answers) not know how instincts are learned or passed on, one thing I would rule out would be 'it's encoded on our DNA'. I mean, of it was already in our DNA, it would make sense how it was passed ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 13, 2022:
@Garban "Our" DNA? No, I'm asking about a specific individual's DNA changing so said advantageous changes could be passed on to offspring.
I have been reading up on DNA memory, it seems the jury is out on whether past life experiences are ...
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 13, 2022:
While we may (or at least I, maybe people whose life work is evolutionarily biology have very simple answers) not know how instincts are learned or passed on, one thing I would rule out would be 'it's encoded on our DNA'. I mean, of it was already in our DNA, it would make sense how it was passed ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 13, 2022:
@RichieO You're suggesting an individual's DNA changes throughout their life? Do you have a resource that explains how that is possible because I've never heard of that. By that rationale DNA evidence from cold cases would be essentially useless, no?
Let’s Go Brandon!!!!! It’s actually kinda comical.
Dhiltong comments on Apr 13, 2022:
The inflation rate for March in the EU was 6.5%. If you could subtract the inflation caused by Trumps trade war, which by the way kicked off this current inflationary period. We’d probably be doing much better than the rest of the world.
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 13, 2022:
You're asking for critical thinking here. You're not going to get it.
Russian state television says that Trump is their candidate af choice.
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 12, 2022:
A lot of them are already on this site...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 12, 2022:
@DenoPenno Oh, for sure. That group is the snowflakiest pile of fragile-ass bitches ever.
I have a simple question....
SnowyOwl comments on Apr 10, 2022:
While it is a matter of fact that cream rises to the top, it is also true that shit floats. ;)
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 10, 2022:
If you eat enough fiber...
I don't care who you are, that there is funny.
NostraDumbass comments on Apr 10, 2022:
I like MY coffee the way I like my women. All over my lap while I’m driving.
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 10, 2022:
Different varieties, a couple times a day, for free, in the breakroom, with no bitterness whatsoever.
Rock on...
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 9, 2022:
Every generation says that about "their" music...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 10, 2022:
@HankSherman I know we're just joking around, but there's probably some really interesting science behind why we like or dislike music, tones, beats, chords, tempo, etc. Are there evolutionary changes that change what "good music" is?
Rock on...
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 9, 2022:
Every generation says that about "their" music...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 10, 2022:
@HankSherman Including yours? 😝
I have often heard atheists and agnostics accused of believing in nothing, especially by apologists.
Julie808 comments on Apr 4, 2022:
I believe in things that matter. It does not matter to me whether there is or isn't a god. Nothing to prove either way for my purposes in living a good life. I do believe in goodness, kindness, fairness, natural consequences, courtesy, respect, compassion, empathy and a whole lot of things ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 10, 2022:
@PapPap It's not your personality. Your personality is great. You seem like a nice enough guy and you're genuine. I can deal with a lot of differences with someone that's generally cool. You just have some blind spots in your belief structure, we all do, and I know people can't control what they believe or whether or not they'll encounter a person that says the right combination of words in the right order that makes them change their mind. Also, it doesn't really *hurt* me if you don't, so I'm not too worried about it. It would be nice if our conversation allowed you to recognize that some things you believe you may not have given enough thought and make some changes, but it's not necessary.
I'm gonna leave some details out to try to make this as short and sweet as possible.
Julie808 comments on Apr 10, 2022:
If I'm understanding correctly your insurance is covering the more expensive granite, so if I were you, I'd go for that, since there is no way to pocket the difference if you choose a cheaper type. Sounds like they are replacing up to same quality, and there's no reason to go down to a lesser ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 10, 2022:
Yeah, they won't pay loss of use for me either and the cabinets are on at TWENTY week backorder. I probably won't have a kitchen until it starts to get cold out again. I didn't like the look of the group 4 colors. Didn't think they meshed well with what I was going for. The adjuster sent the check directly to me based off the estimate with the group 4 pricing though, so if I choose less expensive products, and I don't have contractor that's trying to scam me and pocket the difference, I *would* get to keep it. Thank you for the kind words. I have a friend at work. She and her dad, who is a licensed contractor, may be able to help me out. If not, I don't know what I'm going to do. At this point if I can't find a trustworthy person, I'll just keep all the cash, invest it, and sell the condo as-is to someone that wants to flip it when I finally find a home I like. But whatever I do, I'm not letting someone take advantage of me.
I'm gonna leave some details out to try to make this as short and sweet as possible.
Organist1 comments on Apr 9, 2022:
Please consider going to small claims court the next time your condo association pulls some shit. If you document everything, you will win, and they will have to pay you and court costs. If it were me, I would move, but there's no reason you should have to do that just because they're jackasses. I ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 9, 2022:
I want to move. But I fully intend to die in the next home I buy, so I want it to be the house that meets my needs.
I'm gonna leave some details out to try to make this as short and sweet as possible.
AnneWimsey comments on Apr 9, 2022:
If all I was paying was the $500 deductible I would have chosen counters (up to the allowed tier) that I liked, period. IMO unless You caused "the next problem", (if indeed there ever is one, and perhaps the cause wouldn't be an issue anyway...was your neighbor penalized in any way?) that would be...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 9, 2022:
@AnneWimsey Yeah, I could just not worry about the depreciation of my home by that $1k or so, but I was also losing out on the money to pay the deductible. I just wasn't prepared to let him take advantage like that. I still work for the same company, but in a different department. She still has things she can do to mess with me that no one cares about apparently. A year and a half after I switched jobs, she still went in and took away badge access to a lot of things I still need with my new department and me and my new manager had to deal with the headache of getting my access reinstated. I mean, how am I still occupying head space in that woman 18 months later during a global pandemic? She really doesn't have enough shit on her plate? As for my condo board, they imposed fines for the craziest shit ever. They fined me for unlevel concrete (which wasn't my responsibility according to the Bylaws), an illegally parked SUV (which was so covered in snow you couldn't even tell what kind of car it was or see the license plate and I had DMV records proving I don't own any large vehicle of any kind), dog poop (even though I've literally never owned a dog my entire life and I was the one that was complaining we should institute that dog poo DNA prevention method to make people clean up after their dogs), a bird feeder (that was my old upstairs' neighbor's feeder- I don't even open my blinds or windows, ever, why would I put up a bird feeder), my grill (which I literally had to look up the specific verbiage in the ORC and then have the fire Marshall call the management company to tell them i wasn't in violation), and MANY other things. I went to a lawyer with all my evidence. She told me to my face that she thought I was exaggerating during our phone call. She was dumbfounded that everything I was saying was true. She said there was virtually no chance I would lose in court... BUT *just* the demand letter would cost $1200 to write, and if they didn't respond it would cost several thousand to file and go to court. And since the fines only amounted to several hundred, and the board was fighting with the owners' money, not their own, it would likely be a horrible outcome for me no matter what. So I bit the bullet and paid fines for shit I didn't do. I'm just fucking done getting fucked over when I can't help it, and I'm sure as fuck not going to let it happen anymore when I can.
For those of you who enjoy a good laugh at the stupidity of Karens: [youtube.com]
Garban comments on Apr 9, 2022:
This is either a 4 year old that never matured, or she has chemical / mental issues. It was funny at first but sad as it wore on. Just my opinion, I’m not a doctor.
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 9, 2022:
I agree with you. That seems like more than just entitlement. Bitch is cray.
How offensive is the word "cunt"?
Normanbites comments on Apr 9, 2022:
I think much depends on your place of origin. For a Yank, the word "bugger" just means a mildly annoying person, yet for a person from the UK or Australia, it is a highly offensive and vulgar term with strong homosexual connotations. By contrast, your chosen word "cunt" is highly offensive in...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 9, 2022:
@Normanbites Thank you.
I have often heard atheists and agnostics accused of believing in nothing, especially by apologists.
Julie808 comments on Apr 4, 2022:
I believe in things that matter. It does not matter to me whether there is or isn't a god. Nothing to prove either way for my purposes in living a good life. I do believe in goodness, kindness, fairness, natural consequences, courtesy, respect, compassion, empathy and a whole lot of things ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 9, 2022:
@PapPap I don't have a comment on how they access that information because to venture a guess on the subject would be to gloss over the assumption you're carrying that they *do* access unlearned information. *You don't even notice your assumptions as you type them...* As for the government having programs that center around fringe-beliefs, you're making two more assumptions. 1. That these programs are not a front for other secret programs they can't publicly fund and/or 2. that if they *did* fund said programs that their funding is evidence that there is validity to said fringe-belief. As for the day of a date or fast math, it sounds like you're just too enamored by fantastical outcomes to think critically about how it's possible. People like you are a magician's favorite audience member. I loved having people like you around when I was performing fairly amateur tricks for my restaurant and bar customers. They were amazed and entertained and always left great tips. Anyway, if you take just a second away from being amazed by what you think is supernatural to look for the how, you may just find you're a duped rube full of assumptions. https://youtu.be/714LTMNJy5M Mathemagics: How to Look Like a Genius Without Really Trying https://www.amazon.com/dp/0737300086/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_XPBGZM6WEE1MCA9K5HNF
How offensive is the word "cunt"?
Normanbites comments on Apr 9, 2022:
I think much depends on your place of origin. For a Yank, the word "bugger" just means a mildly annoying person, yet for a person from the UK or Australia, it is a highly offensive and vulgar term with strong homosexual connotations. By contrast, your chosen word "cunt" is highly offensive in...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 9, 2022:
I completely agree with that assessment. Did you vote in the poll by chance?
@Archeus_lore is apparently too fragile a little bitch to have anyone cite facts he doesn't like in ...
DharmaBum50 comments on Apr 8, 2022:
On the day I blocked nine anti-masking, anti-vaxxing, or just general reality-denying right-wing blowhards, I happened to run across a post by Archeus_lore that put my bullshit detector in a state of high alert, so I blocked him, too. Sounds like it was a wise decision.
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 8, 2022:
Smart man.
I have often heard atheists and agnostics accused of believing in nothing, especially by apologists.
Julie808 comments on Apr 4, 2022:
I believe in things that matter. It does not matter to me whether there is or isn't a god. Nothing to prove either way for my purposes in living a good life. I do believe in goodness, kindness, fairness, natural consequences, courtesy, respect, compassion, empathy and a whole lot of things ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 8, 2022:
@PapPap But you *don't* have an open mind. You are living with so many assumptions in your head about the nature of reality. Many more than me in fact, yet you are lecturing me about keeping an open mind. And there are NUMEROUS objections you completely ignored from my last several comments. If you're all about attaining knowledge, you should have either countered the objection or conceded the point and attempted to change your opinion.
I have often heard atheists and agnostics accused of believing in nothing, especially by apologists.
Julie808 comments on Apr 4, 2022:
I believe in things that matter. It does not matter to me whether there is or isn't a god. Nothing to prove either way for my purposes in living a good life. I do believe in goodness, kindness, fairness, natural consequences, courtesy, respect, compassion, empathy and a whole lot of things ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 8, 2022:
@PapPap 1. Not believing we should love one another (as if it is an imperative) is not the same as thinking we shouldn't love one another (meaning that we should avoid it regardless). I try to use my words very carefully, and I'd appreciate the same care when being paraphrased. 2. I disagree that love is purposeless if life is meaningless (not to mention the fact that most people don't believe people have a choice whether or not to feel what we describe as "love" so it's kind of moot either way). That does not follow logically. For someone who wants to remain open to possibilities, you sure jump to a lot of conclusions that close doors... 3. What is "genuine love"? 4. Yes, me, and generally anyone else who believes in evolution, don't believe in some cosmic purpose to life, but what makes you think love is a necessary condition to meaningful life? You really adhere to the belief that if one never found love their life was meaningless? 5. I never said anything about religion specifically. I am just saying you're inventing some cosmic force that dictates intention and purpose to [human] life for which there is no evidence. Weren't you the one talking about assuming you know something being an impediment to the attainment of knowledge? What do you think you're doing with this assumption?
How offensive is the word "cunt"?
itsmeagain comments on Apr 7, 2022:
They are not equivalent because they are offensive for different reasons, and context counts. I am restating my observation, or belaboring it if you will, that the OP began with the bias of the words not being equally offensive, as evidenced by the use of "N word", versus use of "cunt". Just ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 8, 2022:
@itsmeagain Oh, I'm sorry, not *your* answer, *one's* answer. Generally people calling out bias don't seem like they'd fall victim to it. So I hear you context reasoning, but I would ask that you try to think of each word in its most offensive context. I mean if we were to compare the skill of two drivers, it wouldn't be by seeing who navigates a McDonald's drive thru better, it would be by really putting them through their paces, no? Or would we claim that Bezos and Musk are *equally* rich because they can both afford a BMW? So if the word that starts with N has the maximum potential to be worse than the word that starts with C has the potential to be, then you'd answer that they are not equivalent. But if at their very, very worst, they are exactly as offensive as each other, then you'd vote for equivalent.
How offensive is the word "cunt"?
itsmeagain comments on Apr 7, 2022:
They are not equivalent because they are offensive for different reasons, and context counts. I am restating my observation, or belaboring it if you will, that the OP began with the bias of the words not being equally offensive, as evidenced by the use of "N word", versus use of "cunt". Just ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 7, 2022:
Just because I don't think they are equivalent, and you sussed that out based on my spelling one word out and abbreviating the other, even though you would have clearly read that in the post with no deduction needed, doesn't mean the reader can't say for themselves whether or not they are. This poll is asking for personal opinions. If your opinion on the matter is so weak and transient that my "bias" taints your answer, it wasn't based on that strongly held a conviction. Yes, I should be able to spell out what the N word is in an academic discussion, but many people find it so extraordinarily offensive, that it doesn't even seem safe in that context. Any other little innocent thing that is misconstrued and all of a sudden it's paired with, "and he obviously doesn't have any problem saying n***er" and now I'm a racist.
How offensive is the word "cunt"?
dalefvictor comments on Apr 7, 2022:
I have heard men referred to as "cunts" They were real assholes and had to work to get called that, it was by group approval that the person was a "C".
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 7, 2022:
And your vote, sir?
I have often heard atheists and agnostics accused of believing in nothing, especially by apologists.
Julie808 comments on Apr 4, 2022:
I believe in things that matter. It does not matter to me whether there is or isn't a god. Nothing to prove either way for my purposes in living a good life. I do believe in goodness, kindness, fairness, natural consequences, courtesy, respect, compassion, empathy and a whole lot of things ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 7, 2022:
@PapPap I answered hastily while at work. I should respond to everything you said. 1. I don't know what you mean exactly by "natural law", thus, I can't agree that morality stems from it. As I said, I don't believe in objective morality, so if this natural law you are referencing is some kind of metaphysical property that governs all mankind, I'd adamantly reject that hypothesis. Our ideas of morality can't even span time OR distance, so the thought it could span BOTH is a non-starter for me. 2. While I do believe that what one thinks is the "right" or "wrong" thing to do shouldn't be determined simply by what is legal or what one can "get away with", it does not follow logically that one shouldn't weigh 'fear of punishment' when determining what to do¹. I do not believe that speeding, for me, is wrong. I'm an amazing driver. I could drive figurative and literal circles around most other people on the road. I just had to pass some douchebag that was getting on the freeway at 25mph while texting, and I may have done something that was technically illegal, but what he was doing was INFINITELY more dangerous and I was simply removing myself from his sphere of influence and likely improving the whole situation (any time there are less drivers near a bad driver, there is a reduced chance of an accident). That said, I still weigh potential consequences for doing something I don't even think is wrong, and likely wouldn't have done what I thought was the right thing to do if I saw potential to get in trouble for it (like if a cop was nearby). 3. Even if I didn't object to any of the prior statements you made, I'd still object to the proposition that "it is in our nature to be good." Humans are inherently deeply selfish. 4. Since I take issue with everything you said prior to this point, I also don't believe we *should* love one another. (Also because it begs some cosmic imperative I can't see reason for.) Nor do I worry about the "consideration" or "essence" of something I don't even acknowledge. ¹ This is all ignoring the fact that I don't believe in free will at all and my musings over what is "right" and "wrong" and decisions of what to do are all merely post-hoc commentary on the observations of how I've behaved in the past and how I hope my subconscious mind determines I will behave in the future. There are some here that will try to claim I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth without this disclaimer.
The love of a dog
ChestRockfield comments on Apr 6, 2022:
Ohhhh, a dog... I thought the answer was going to be Dr. Jack Kevorkian. I'll pass on the dog if we get a choice. 😝
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 7, 2022:
@MsKathleen Too high maintenence for me. Plus the dog in After Life kept keeping his owner from killing himself. If I'm ready and able to "go", I don't want anything to guilt me into staying.
How offensive is the word "cunt"?
itsmeagain comments on Apr 6, 2022:
I didn't answer because context is most important. Any word is just a word until someone gives it power to be offensive, but the better question is why use any word that is offensive to anyone? My personal experience, growing up in the US, is that the C word is extremely offensive. Other ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 7, 2022:
@itsmeagain I *do* tie my belief about how offensive a word is to the plight suffered by the group the word is meant to malign. The other word is inextricably tied to slavery and lynching and hundreds of years of systemic racism. While it is true women have and still do suffer inequity, I don't know that "cunt", specifically, was used to subjugate women in the same way or carries the same connotation and power. It would seem that, at least in the limited results the poll they asked me to post has tabulated, members of agnostic tend to agree at an above 70% clip. As for your claim that words add to the tone without being necessarily offensive, it shows that you, personally, aren't offended by the word "fucking", but that does not mean no one is. These other words you don't find offensive, but others do, is the same as others finding cunt to not be so offensive that it should be off-limits, so to speak. And we can even take it one step further as I find the N word to be unsayable, but @Reignmond has both used the word and stated that it is not an insulting word during this discussion. I totally see his point. The "banning" of words simply causes a euphemism treadmill effect, and is generally pointless... *even though I think the N word attempts to be the exception to this rule because of the horrific history attached. I don't really see how a "new" word could ever replace it.*
I have often heard atheists and agnostics accused of believing in nothing, especially by apologists.
Julie808 comments on Apr 4, 2022:
I believe in things that matter. It does not matter to me whether there is or isn't a god. Nothing to prove either way for my purposes in living a good life. I do believe in goodness, kindness, fairness, natural consequences, courtesy, respect, compassion, empathy and a whole lot of things ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 7, 2022:
@PapPap Not really. It's the reason I put "wrong" in quotes. I don't believe in objective morality, but whatever a person and/or society deems wrong shouldn't be predicated on whether or not a punishment is prescribed or carried out. The reverse is also true.
I have often heard atheists and agnostics accused of believing in nothing, especially by apologists.
Julie808 comments on Apr 4, 2022:
I believe in things that matter. It does not matter to me whether there is or isn't a god. Nothing to prove either way for my purposes in living a good life. I do believe in goodness, kindness, fairness, natural consequences, courtesy, respect, compassion, empathy and a whole lot of things ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 7, 2022:
@PapPap Personally I believe that legality and morality are separate entities and should not necessarily inform each other. In other words, whether or not you could or would be punished is irrelevant in determining whether or not something is "wrong".
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racocn8 comments on Apr 6, 2022:
FYI, per Excel FV formula, $5400 for 20 periods at 2% generates $131,205. How much is a Ferrari? $226,000 per Google. A 7% interest rate buys the Ferrari. Not 100% sure...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 7, 2022:
Also, show me an account offering 2% that isn't crypto. Even CDs are only offering a half percent last I checked.
@Archeus_lore is apparently too fragile a little bitch to have anyone cite facts he doesn't like in ...
Moravian comments on Apr 7, 2022:
I called him out on his pathetic support of Russian propaganda and I haven't been blocked. Must try harder.
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 7, 2022:
All I did was point out that talking about the shitty things the US has done, which I'm not denying at all, is a hard-core case of whataboutism. These Putin apologists forget kindergarten rules very easily: Two wrongs don't make a right. Then when he said, "If you don't like it, don't look." To which I pointed out it was fallacious reasoning to assume there's only one reason to not like what he was saying and that it would be solved by not reading it, and that I assumed he was smart enough to understand that. He told me to fuck off. I surmised he *was* a fuckin' idiot. Then he blocked me. So basically, you need to point out how stupid he is to everyone and he'll get to blocking you. I'm sure you can do it!
How offensive is the word "cunt"?
anglophone comments on Apr 1, 2022:
Context is crucial, and this is not allowed for in the poll.
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 7, 2022:
@itsmeagain I didn't mention a black *guy* in the hypothetical.
How offensive is the word "cunt"?
itsmeagain comments on Apr 6, 2022:
I didn't answer because context is most important. Any word is just a word until someone gives it power to be offensive, but the better question is why use any word that is offensive to anyone? My personal experience, growing up in the US, is that the C word is extremely offensive. Other ...
ChestRockfield replies on Apr 7, 2022:
Thank you for your comment. There are two important reasons why someone may use a word that's offensive to anyone: 1. Pretty much *every* word is offensive to *someone*. I learned that there are people offended by the word "lame". There are TONS of people that are offended by the word "moist". It would be pretty much impossible to talk if you could never use any word that was offensive to at least somebody. 2. It's offensive. Sometimes people do shitty things, and the only way to adequately express your feelings is to use a word we've collectively given power to. Ricky Gervais had a bit about the Yulin festival in China where they eat thousands of dogs, only they think if the dogs are tortured first, it makes the meat taste better. He Tweeted a picture and captioned it, "One beautiful creature and two disgusting cunts skinning it alive" which prompted a women to reprimand him for his language. He asked if she was really more offended by his language than what the men were doing. It just doesn't make sense. I'll admit I live a pretty sheltered life comparatively speaking. I'd be curious to know where in the world a white person could throw the N word around indiscriminately with no fear whatsoever, save for a Klan meeting in the Southern United States or *GOP coke and sex orgies, I assume.* Maybe it was a short cut, but those can be offensive too. How would you feel as a holocaust survivor when people compare a more trivial plight to what you suffered? Hell, someone may even be offended by that comparison I just made, too.
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