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Just thought I'd throw this out there in case I can educate some of you and hopefully clear up some ...

ChestRockfield comments on Jan 17, 2018:

"Let me also say that I'm a strong believer in the right to die...I just can't have help doing it." You, sir, are not a strong believer in the right to die. Replace the word 'die' with the word 'abortion' to see how wrong you are. Actually, for quadriplegics, any right is a right they'd need ...

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 17, 2018:

@JWDiaz Thanks, seems not many do. I really think putting yourself in someone else's shoes is vitally important when deciding where you stand on an issue (or wishing commensurate punishment on someone for failing to).

Just thought I'd throw this out there in case I can educate some of you and hopefully clear up some ...

JWDiaz comments on Jan 17, 2018:

A pathologist? I thought he was a medical doctor. Thank you for putting him out of business.

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 17, 2018:

@JWDiaz No, a medical doctor, not a PhD. You specialize after becoming an MD or DO. (e.g. a cytopathologist is a medical doctor that did a fellowship in his specialty and became certified in recognizing pathogens at the cellular level, a radiologist is a medical doctor that specialized in imaging, etc.)

I wonder why Jesus didn't come in a modern world?

Tecolote comments on Jan 16, 2018:

Naw, we would just put him in Guantanamo never to be seen again.

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 17, 2018:

@Tecolote It did, he just waited 3 days. Of course, maybe he just transported himself back to the right hand of himself and watched Netflix for 71hours.

Just thought I'd throw this out there in case I can educate some of you and hopefully clear up some ...

Wafflestomp comments on Jan 17, 2018:

If I am faced with such circumstances, I’ll need a bottle of Jack, some rock and roll and a plastic bag. I won’t need permission.

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 17, 2018:

If you have the use of your arms for the bag I suppose.

Just thought I'd throw this out there in case I can educate some of you and hopefully clear up some ...

Trajan61 comments on Jan 17, 2018:

The gun is probably the best tool we have available at the moument for ending our life when we have reached the point of not having any quality of life. Unfornately some people only make half hearted attempts and end up just badly hurting themselves but done correctly the gun is a quick and painless...

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 17, 2018:

I disagree. Think of how many people die quickly and not only painlessly, but euphorically from overdoses of heroin. How would that not be a better way to go? You get high, then drift off to sleep, then die.

Just thought I'd throw this out there in case I can educate some of you and hopefully clear up some ...

dahermit comments on Jan 17, 2018:

The only person who should be able to decide that the quality of life makes life not worth living is the person who wants to die. Some people cannot do it themselves for some reason or another (infirmity, etc.). Demonizing Jack Kevorkian is an ad hominem attack. I have the right to die and YOU do...

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 17, 2018:

As long as he's agnostic I suppose. Unfortunately, however, being agnostic doesn't stop you from being a short-sighted asshole.

Just thought I'd throw this out there in case I can educate some of you and hopefully clear up some ...

JWDiaz comments on Jan 17, 2018:

A pathologist? I thought he was a medical doctor. Thank you for putting him out of business.

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 17, 2018:

Yes, a pathologist is a doctor.

I wonder why Jesus didn't come in a modern world?

LeighShelton comments on Jan 16, 2018:

if you said the kind of stuff said in bibles you would be thrown in the funny farm.

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 17, 2018:

Unless he proved it. We're not talking about someone claiming to be Jesus, we're talking about the actual part of the holy trinity. The exercise is to show how stupid it is for the story to have Jesus come then. For the people who created the stories, they couldn't anticipate the advancements mankind would make that would render their timeline silly, but Jesus, being omniscient, could.

I wonder why Jesus didn't come in a modern world?

Tecolote comments on Jan 16, 2018:

Naw, we would just put him in Guantanamo never to be seen again.

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 17, 2018:

Naw, he could just Jesus himself right back out.

Tax Cuts For Dummies - YouTube

ChestRockfield comments on Jan 16, 2018:

This woman is likely not saying what she believes. She's probably just an actress getting paid by Turning Point USA, an ultra right wing propaganda machine that targets college-age kids who are too naive to know what they're being told is all lies.

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 17, 2018:

@M121 Well, right off the bat, because of the way our tax system works, any blanket tax cut disproportionately benefits the rich. (And don't believe the lies about the tax cuts not being for the rich. Most of the income for people making so much money that it could theoretically cause them to pay more actually comes from sources that this won't hurt: corporate tax and investment income, both of which are taxed differently and now drastically lower.) So back to the tax cuts for everyone. Actually, people tell me sometimes my writing is not easy to understand. I found this video that sums all this up quite nicely. https://www.vox.com/videos/2017/11/15/16654480/how-tax-breaks-help-rich It's 8.5minutes long but well worth the time for anyone who actually cares what's going on and everyone who will be negatively affected by it.

Is belief a choice?

Janus819 comments on Jan 16, 2018:

I do not think it is a choice. When I first realized Christianity was BS I wanted to continue believing anyway. I had every motive to. I just couldn't.

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 17, 2018:

@witchymom No, neither of those things are true. I don't wake up every morning and decide I'm going to still not believe in a Christian conception of god that I believe to be self-contradictory. Truthfully, that thought almost never crosses my mind unless I'm reading something like this. Likewise, people like my brother's best friend's mother who believes she literally talks to Jesus and has verbal conversations with him is not choosing to believe. Just for fun, choose to believe kittens are disgusting and ugly for a day and then go to the pet store and play with some and see how you feel inside. When you still want to squeeze the shit out of them because they are unbearably adorable, you can come back and apologize for being wrong.

Do you think non religious people can be racists too?

mistymoon77 comments on Jan 16, 2018:

Well sure there is going to be racist people no matter their denomination, gender, color, etc. Some people are just that way.. there is not getting around it. But do I think there are MORE racists that are non theists. No. I feel, now this may be a generic opinion but it's just what I have ...

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 17, 2018:

There is no doubt that there are more racists than non-theists. It's why we have president Trump and almost zero public offices held by atheists.

Is belief a choice?

resserts comments on Jan 16, 2018:

I don't think belief itself is a choice, but I do think (insofar as choice exists at all) that ignorance is — and that's directly related to belief. We're in an age of information unlike anything we've known in recorded human history, yet so many people reject facts and established science in ...

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 17, 2018:

@resserts Yeah, that's what I was talking about. :-P The OP on was about free will, yet you claimed people had agency in their ignorance; I was just curious why. I know the words I choose in daily life could probably confuse people regarding my stance on free will, so I try to be extra cautious when I'm taking about it specifically.

Do you think non religious people can be racists too?

Simon1 comments on Jan 16, 2018:

Assholes come in all shapes and sizes and colours !!

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 16, 2018:

Like round, large, and orange...

Is belief a choice?

resserts comments on Jan 16, 2018:

I don't think belief itself is a choice, but I do think (insofar as choice exists at all) that ignorance is — and that's directly related to belief. We're in an age of information unlike anything we've known in recorded human history, yet so many people reject facts and established science in ...

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 16, 2018:

@resserts I don't really know how to set the free will debate aside when someone's claim assumes a person is at fault for how much they desire or value something. Do you think you can control what you desire?

Is belief a choice?

Janus819 comments on Jan 16, 2018:

I do not think it is a choice. When I first realized Christianity was BS I wanted to continue believing anyway. I had every motive to. I just couldn't.

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 16, 2018:

@witchymom In what way? She's saying she couldn't choose what she wanted meaning there was no choice in the matter for her.

Is belief a choice?

resserts comments on Jan 16, 2018:

I don't think belief itself is a choice, but I do think (insofar as choice exists at all) that ignorance is — and that's directly related to belief. We're in an age of information unlike anything we've known in recorded human history, yet so many people reject facts and established science in ...

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 16, 2018:

Why do you think you have choice in ignorance?

Is belief a choice?

raney150 comments on Jan 16, 2018:

I don't think so. I can't make myself believe something I just don't believe. The most choice I think there is would be to choose to avoid challenging your beliefs.

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 16, 2018:

Which is also not a choice...

Is belief a choice?

JWDiaz comments on Jan 16, 2018:

For some people it's a choice. If they make a living out of religion, like Billy Graham did and now his son, that Osteen multimillionaire guy, and so many others; it's to their advantage to continue "believing" even if they don't.

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 16, 2018:

@Lucas20520 Very true, but most people don't understand that either. If you ask them if they can choose to believe in Santa or that the sky is green with purple polkadots, they'll tell you yes. They're either intellectually dishonest or stupid. If it's the latter, they are not choosing to believe that they can choose to believe something.

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Diarmaede comments on Jan 15, 2018:

Seems like it's open season on men in this group these days. The misandry runs deep 'round here.

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 16, 2018:

I'm sad I wasn't included in the list, too. Ha ha ha. Relax bro. You have to admit mansplaining is real and super douchy.

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NerdyOkieDude comments on Jan 16, 2018:

Stealing.

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 16, 2018:

@evestrat I thought I read "by all memes". :-P

This is for the single ladies over 50.

kiramea comments on Jan 10, 2018:

The only rule I have is that I will never date anyone younger than my oldest son (he's 39). Now, if I had a chance with Jason Mamoa........ well let's say that rule will be thrown out the window :)

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 16, 2018:

I'd never hook up with a guy younger than, wait, how old is John Stamos?

This is for the single ladies over 50.

EveHoward comments on Jan 10, 2018:

Yes. I have no desire to be a care giver nor do I have any desire to mother a man-child. So within 10 years of my age forward or backward is my perference

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 16, 2018:

@EveHoward Aren't *you* showing age discrimination with your original post??

This is for the single ladies over 50.

Corvislover comments on Jan 10, 2018:

For me, I am not too keen into age. Too old for me is 11+ years since that ends up in a different generational perspective...

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 16, 2018:

"Too old for me is 11+ years" -Roy Moore

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ChestRockfield comments on Jan 14, 2018:

I came from that other thread and I see the others grew tired of this before you posted and never showed up. You are wrong, as they stated. You absolutely can claim you don't have a belief something exists while at the same time claiming you can't know for sure whether or not it does. All of your...

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 16, 2018:

@TheMiddleWay Fallacy #1 This whole time you've been setting up a **Straw Man**. You've taken my statement differentiating what people mean when they say they are agnostic and you've defined it in a way that makes it easier to defeat. You say that if anyone has any knowledge or supporting evidence, that eliminates their ability to be agnostic about whether or not god exists. But those are two different things. If I find a bloody collar in the road with my dog's tag on it, I have evidence to suggest that he got hit by a car. Depending on the amount of blood, what the weather conditions are, how resilient and old/young it is, if there were foot pints leading anywhere, etc. I can make educated guesses on whether or not my dog is still alive. So by your definitions, because I know some information about the circumstances that could shape my belief, I can't say both "I don't know if my dog is alive" and "I believe my dog is alive". The only way one is unable to make the claim with intellectual honesty that they don't know whether or not the dog is alive is if they have incontrovertible proof regarding that claim, nothing else. Fallacy #2 Your unnecessarily long explanation of hard and soft agnosticism was nothing but a **Red Herring** But if we look at your position on the Higgs. You say you are now "more in the belief camp". What does that mean? It means you have some evidence to suggest that it is true which caused you to limply say you believe, but you don't have proof, so you can't say you know. Your very counterargument, in essence, contains the language that you believe in the Higgs, but can't know for sure (yet). This directly contradicts your statement, "Thus I'm claiming that if you don't have facts, information, or a 'justified true belief' about gods, then you are agnostic and that any further claim that they do or do not exist is unjustified as it is not informed by knowledge." Furthermore, your statement is conflating the words believe and know. Beliefs are (or at least should be) based on evidence. Knowledge is based on proof (a true belief). Fallacy #3 You initially claimed that you could prove that unicorns don't exist through genetics. You then **Moved the Goalposts** and claimed that the unicorn had to be terrestrial. Then claimed that the unicorn had to have horse DNA. Let's get one thing clear, if a unicorn exists, it would be its own species with its own DNA, and it would have been a descendant of the ancestors of some of the animals we know of today, but to claim that you know which ones or what DNA it would have despite the fact that it could be based on some pretty significant genetic mutations or cross breedings is exceptionally arrogant and completely fallacious. You took the definition "A mythical ...

Do you think Korea is that crazy?

evidentialist comments on Jan 14, 2018:

No, but I'm not the average person in the street. North Korea has been rattling sabers and pounding chests since the establishment of the DMZ at the 38th Parallel. Nothing new on that front. What is new is the rhetoric out of Washington and our Twitter wielding, toilet seat in the wee hours ...

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 15, 2018:

@evidentialist I'll take 2 years of Pence over 2-6 years of Trump.

Do you think Korea is that crazy?

evidentialist comments on Jan 14, 2018:

No, but I'm not the average person in the street. North Korea has been rattling sabers and pounding chests since the establishment of the DMZ at the 38th Parallel. Nothing new on that front. What is new is the rhetoric out of Washington and our Twitter wielding, toilet seat in the wee hours ...

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 15, 2018:

@evidentialist Hopefully not. Hopefully he'll be gone before midterms.

Donald Trump

ChestRockfield comments on Jan 15, 2018:

He's so terrible that I want to see people who voted for him lose their job after his social programs take effect, lose their health after his healthcare policies take effect, lose their land to the border wall, and lose their ability to stay in the US after him immigration policies take effect, and...

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 15, 2018:

@Tecolote I watched two extended news stories about Trump voters who will be losing their land if the wall goes up. They're out there, and I hope it totally destroys their lives, tanks the value of their property, and cuts them off from emergency and delivery services.

Does anyone have a serious phobia?

chuckles comments on Dec 30, 2017:

Why did it have to be snakes?

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 15, 2018:

I'd think one would say, "I have had it with these motherfuckin' snakes on this motherfuckin' plane."

Does anyone have a serious phobia?

BlackheartdHope comments on Dec 30, 2017:

Things from above falling (ceiling fans, chandeliers etc.), I'm very uneasy when I hear footsteps/creaky floors above me, I feel like shit's gonna collapse right on me. I have no idea where it came from. Also sea creatures (whales, sharks), scare me a bit. Everything else I can handle.

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 15, 2018:

@atheist Guess someone doesn't know about Sharknados...

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Kreig comments on Jan 11, 2018:

You speak of the *subject* of theology; about which many of us have knowledge. It is the *entity* of a deity for which we claim simply no empirical evidence exists. And it doesn't.

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 15, 2018:

@TheMiddleWay See, you're defining agnostic as "without any knowledge whatsoever" when it could be "without all of the knowledge necessary to". Making an educated guess is not knowing, thus, you can believe something, with evidence, that you do not know for certain to be true. In other words, you're claiming the knowledge one can't have to label himself agnostic is ANY evidence about god, while I'm claiming the knowledge one can't have is of god. When people say they're agnostic, they're not saying "I have no knowledge of any evidence for or against the existence of a god" they're saying "I don't/can't know if a god exists."

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ChestRockfield comments on Jan 14, 2018:

I came from that other thread and I see the others grew tired of this before you posted and never showed up. You are wrong, as they stated. You absolutely can claim you don't have a belief something exists while at the same time claiming you can't know for sure whether or not it does. All of your...

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 15, 2018:

@TheMiddleWay I want you to read this short article about 10 animals scientists didn't believe were real, and then I want you to come back here and tell me that through a potential combination of cross-breeding and genetic mutations of the ANCESTORS of animals that we know of today it is **IMPOSSIBLE** for there to have been a large 4-legged animal with a single horn on its head. https://www.ranker.com/list/amazing-animals-scientists-didnt-believe-were-real/eric-vega

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ChestRockfield comments on Jan 14, 2018:

I came from that other thread and I see the others grew tired of this before you posted and never showed up. You are wrong, as they stated. You absolutely can claim you don't have a belief something exists while at the same time claiming you can't know for sure whether or not it does. All of your...

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 15, 2018:

@TheMiddleWay Oh, so what you meant to say was through semantics you can "prove" unicorns don't exist. Got it!

Do you think Korea is that crazy?

evidentialist comments on Jan 14, 2018:

No, but I'm not the average person in the street. North Korea has been rattling sabers and pounding chests since the establishment of the DMZ at the 38th Parallel. Nothing new on that front. What is new is the rhetoric out of Washington and our Twitter wielding, toilet seat in the wee hours ...

ChestRockfield replies on Jan 15, 2018:

@evidentialist Obviously things could change to increase or decrease the likelihood, but his base is still, after all the insane shit, his base. Low 30s that will never leave him. That's not far off a good run at it. Add in the people that will vote for Hitler (or a child molester- one only lost by a point and a half) before a Democrat and you're getting pretty close. The only thing I could see that would really blow things up is if he had a Republican challenger who somehow got the nod from the GOP, but I really don't see that happening. Basically, if he makes it 4 years without being removed, the wait-and-see crowd will easily rejoin the ranks, and it'll be a classic incumbent vs challenger situation.

Do you think Korea is that crazy?

evidentialist comments on Jan 14, 2018:

No, but I'm not the average person in the street. North Korea has been rattling sabers and pounding chests since the establishment of the DMZ at the 38th Parallel. Nothing new on that front. What is new is the rhetoric out of Washington and our Twitter wielding, toilet seat in the wee hours ...