60 Minutes Australia Another Interview with Mary Trump Even if you've seen other interviews,...

Freedompath comments on Jul 26, 2020:

Anyway you portray trump, he is a ticking time bomb!

‪Coworker so Trumpist, says he can’t watch baseball any longer because Dr.

Freedompath comments on Jul 26, 2020:

...why have so many people in our Country lost their place in it? Our choices need to be based on what we desire...not on how to show-up others we disagree with!

Ivanka knows words like her Father it seems [youtube.com]

Freedompath comments on Jul 26, 2020:

Love Colbert reruns! He is timeless, really!

The Stable Genius has competition!

Freedompath comments on Jul 26, 2020:

Ha ha ha ha...trump equal to a gorilla in intelligence...who knew?

Does donald trump Want Maxwell To Keep Quiet?

Freedompath comments on Jul 26, 2020:

That is a good question? We will need to wait and see what lurks in the shadows...this cabal of people is so out of my scope of understanding, that I can only wait for the next ‘shoe’ to drop! I’m really surprised that they didn’t fly off to the moon...I wonder if they have ever observed an ant hill...or looked at the top of a tall tree and how it is always moving, with narry a sign of movement at the bottom? These people just never bothered them selves with ‘real life,’ they thought of themselves as way above the norm...it appears to me!🙄

Does anyone here have anxiety attacks that come out of no where or just in general?

Freedompath comments on Jul 26, 2020:

First, realize this is an emotion (probably about some unknown), and not who you are. When they appear, try and breathe deeply, if possible take yourself to a private place and cry...if this isn’t possible at the moment...then visualize your own arms wrapped around you, for comfort. These are things that if I had started earlier in my life, it would have helped me understand...these feelings are not an indication that I am flawed...that I can’t size up a situation properly...that I must be stupid (surely less than others), it simply means that we are in uncharted waters and we are going to be forced to figure something out...something unknown at the moment! Let it be known, that other people may not have the patience we need...until we get our barrings! They may be scared about the uncertainty of the moment themselves. So know that...and take care of yourself. Learning how to navigate the world is our right, hold that in your mind and don’t get derailed from it...each one of us has a right to learn.

“When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man ...

Freedompath comments on Jul 26, 2020:

Yes! It is a good one!

Many Red States Restoring Gun Rights for the Mentally Ill Despite the ever-rising number of gun...

Freedompath comments on Jul 26, 2020:

This just can’t be true? It can’t? 😪😪😪. From personal experience this is a recipe for innocent people to loose their life! Has this Country gone mad? MADDER?!?

I really liked this - I thought some of you might enjoy it as well.

Freedompath comments on Jul 26, 2020:

For sure! Where is my home? Where is my people? When did I loose my way? How did I loose my way? I am at your mercy, can you hear me? 😥

“When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity.

Freedompath comments on Jul 26, 2020:

I WOULD say so, from what I have witnessed! Lol

22 People Caught COVID at Preacher Andrew Wommack’s Bible Conference | Hemant Mehta | Friendly ...

Freedompath comments on Jul 26, 2020:

I hope they live to ‘study’ another day!

‎Tuesday, ‎July ‎21, ‎2020 my gift to U - the intellectually astute - an opportunity to...

Freedompath comments on Jul 26, 2020:

Well...that was pretty unbelievable! Ultimate love song, sung with the ultimate singing voice. Thanks for posting!

“False friendship is the worst.

Freedompath comments on Jul 25, 2020:

True words!

Will this happen again?

Freedompath comments on Jul 25, 2020:

These two characters would ‘rape’ America, given half the chance! Five more months...that is sure easier than the last 3/half years of torment from trump and his idol!

Jesus Christ. Just think .... about 30% of Americans believe this: [youtu.be]

Freedompath comments on Jul 25, 2020:

That is a pathetic ad! Trump has only one card that he can play (for lack of learning), scare the ignorant people and tell them, he will protect them, because he is the ‘greatest,’ the ‘smartest,’ and the biggest bully on the block!

Ordinarily he's insane, but he has lucid moments when he is merely stupid, Heinrich Heine

Freedompath comments on Jul 25, 2020:

That sounds like somebody I know up close and in my face...

UPDATE: Good news.

Freedompath comments on Jul 25, 2020:

👍😍

Elephants are for spreading copies of instructions for making more elephants, Dawkins

Freedompath comments on Jul 25, 2020:

That would be correct on ‘both’ accounts! Ha ha

If you wish to go fast, go alone. If you wish to go far, go together. African proverb.

Freedompath comments on Jul 25, 2020:

That sounds so comforting! When did we get to be ‘everyman for himself’ mostly? I seem to recollect a time when people showed concern, even when they were of a different culture. Or was that a ‘past life?’ It is planted in my psyche, it had to come from somewhere! lol

I agree!!!!!!!

Freedompath comments on Jul 25, 2020:

Well...that is hardly a secret, after all...you have laid bare your complete open criminal mind! Ha ha

“It is not in the stars to hold our destiny, but in ourselves”.

Freedompath comments on Jul 25, 2020:

...and that can be daunting, especially when you are the only one who travels your path to the end.

I checked the Oxford Dictionary...

Freedompath comments on Jul 25, 2020:

Add d trump to the end of that definition and you get a clear picture! Lol

This guy is a fucking genius!

Freedompath comments on Jul 24, 2020:

Now that is funny!!!

On why he wrote The Lord of the Flies about boys and not girls: "f you, as it were, scaled down ...

Freedompath comments on Jul 24, 2020:

Never read that Golding quote before. Pretty interesting! I think it holds a lot of truth. But, I guess I should have spent more time reading classics.

My latest meme:

Freedompath comments on Jul 24, 2020:

Wallace does not back down, he knows how to hold his own! 👍

Steven Miller's Grandmother Dies of Covid After Effects, and the W.H. Lies! [dailykos.com]

Freedompath comments on Jul 24, 2020:

This Administration is not to be trusted! They may have forgotten their families?

Something posted on my profile only. Does anyone see this besides me?

Freedompath comments on Jul 24, 2020:

Don’t tell me that you are being ‘excommunicated?’

Despite judge's order, migrant children remain detained amid COVID outbreak

Freedompath comments on Jul 24, 2020:

Yes! Law and order in this whole administration seems ‘wacky’ at best! Even when they are ruled against, they just keep on doing same thing! So how can this criminal enterprise be brought up under the LAW?

Something posted on my profile only. Does anyone see this besides me?

Freedompath comments on Jul 24, 2020:

I see only what you have posted there! What do you see?

"You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals.

Freedompath comments on Jul 24, 2020:

Yes! The challenge to ‘help’ others, since we are on this journey of life together...seems harder than ever today! Everybody professes to know everything already!

[slate.

Freedompath comments on Jul 24, 2020:

Exposed...Yoho had a bright light shined on his character! Wonder how the example played out on his family and friends...not to mention his constituents? Upstanding elected official...big question mark?

His only original thoughts have been a lust for power, money and women and he wants us to believe ...

Freedompath comments on Jul 24, 2020:

He will never be more than a ‘loser’...

The federal officers are in Portland under the authority of the Secretary of Homeland Defense per 40...

Freedompath comments on Jul 24, 2020:

Why isn’t Congress addressing this?

Verified by local news team: Post from a Portland OR resident, referring to his father-in-law: ...

Freedompath comments on Jul 23, 2020:

I agree, this should alarm every citizen in this Country. It is illegal! Barr and trump are the only people who could put this into motion! Why are they not being confronted by the ‘powers that be?’ Apparently, they are coming to Albuquerque, per, trump! Why, there is no unrest here that is out of control! What can the regular citizen do, other than show up and be injured for life? If Congress cannot help how can this trump/Barr strategy be curtailed? We must contact all of Congress and express our outrage!

The trump republican party is truly a band of deplorables

Freedompath comments on Jul 23, 2020:

Rep Yoho has got a lot of ‘splaining’ to do...when all else fails, bring GOD, on board! The faithful will stand with you, but I wouldn’t call one of their gals, a ‘fucking bitch,’ you might be mistaken for a ‘liberal!’ God isn’t on their side!

Trump latest: "I spoke to president Putin today" "all this could have been stopped quickly and ...

Freedompath comments on Jul 23, 2020:

He is looking more foolish by the day! Trump is going to play all the cards that he can conjure up! This is one fool who really doesn’t know any better...and our forced ride for 4 more months will test us even more...but after all that trump has put us through up to now...we can DO the home stretch! 😅

"Constitution?

Freedompath comments on Jul 23, 2020:

I am holding out hope come 2021...when trump and his minions are seeking other employment, that they are indicted for crimes against America while holding a public office!

Person, woman, man, camera, TV,...?

Freedompath comments on Jul 23, 2020:

That sounds like OUR American president!!!

This is What He's Alway's All Been About, Hiding from His Own Truth!: [rawstory.com]

Freedompath comments on Jul 23, 2020:

For someone who sub-consciously, is fearful of being revealed to...’not be who he has portrayed himself to be’...HE has exposed himself, IN SPADES...to be nothing that he pretends to be and...and is possibly one of the worst human beings of our time! He should take a look at himself, as others have been observing him! A more flawed man, would be hard to find! Plus...trump has made no attempt to improve his character! From my observation, his nature has worsened! What a deal for the people in America! 😭

trump's police state!!!!

Freedompath comments on Jul 23, 2020:

This should concern every American! Trump’s so called ‘troops’ are showing how a portion of our citizens have been trained to take up arms against their fellow citizen, with no shame! And, how clever, they have been camouflaged to the teeth...to exempt them from accountability. This is the modern day KKKs! We must take back our government which has lost it’s ever loving marbles!

A lie-detector test would be more appropriate for his highness!........GOTCHA!!!

Freedompath comments on Jul 23, 2020:

I am sick of trump’s endless ‘sic’ games!

An animated lightly tRumpized bible story. [youtube.com]

Freedompath comments on Jul 23, 2020:

This is how to ‘create’ insanity!

The NRA's silence about tRump's Gestapo has been deafening ...

Freedompath comments on Jul 23, 2020:

The NRA, is ‘soley’ here to promote gun ‘ownership! The gun manufacturers need to keep the guns flowing...which are mainly used to kill people! Wars, good...local police strife, good...people in fits of anger that shot people, good! Without these guns, problems would need to be worked out intelligently and civilly, and people would live to tell about it! Heavens we don’t need that, the economy would proceed on...with much less fear in the world! We can’t have that!

[newsthump.com] Probably a lot nearer the truth than it should be

Freedompath comments on Jul 23, 2020:

Trump sees only ‘numbers’...examine what he refers to the most! It isn’t people...unless he is trying to ‘smooze’ an individual!

“Closet” Agnostic/Atheist.

Freedompath comments on Jul 23, 2020:

If this is a relatively new found knowledge...I would not take on all my family and friends at once. Allow, yourself to be who you are in your own mind, until it does not matter what others thinks or believes. It will be less of a battle when you must claim your freedom from religion and a god, to those around you, when the subject is brought up. We are not against others, but are in support of ourselves.

How do you get over the death of a love one?

Freedompath comments on Jul 23, 2020:

With time and patience my friend. Then you live with the sad yearnings...that will resurface, off and on for the remainder of your life. The living must go on, if nothing else but to honor the dead! 😥

“I envy thee not thy faith, which is ever In thy mouth but never in thy heart or in thy ...

Freedompath comments on Jul 23, 2020:

Wow! Have I ever seen that quote played out, in real time!

President Trump Sends Out Well-Wishes to Ghislaine Maxwell President Trump offered well-wishes ...

Freedompath comments on Jul 23, 2020:

These are ‘kindred souls’ who are connected by sex and twisted, power hungry, superficial living! They fly higher than a kite, in their own minds! And, as the saying goes, ‘birds of a feather, flock together!’ But, in the end, if anyone of them decides to save his/her own skin, that life want be worth 2 cents, much less, still flying high on sex and power! Trump is simply connected to his ‘good old days,’ before the world was saturated with the exposure of his true lawless personality! Has there been just one decent person to show himself to be a friend to this monster? If I missed them, please post their name! ☹️

White House executive office cafeteria closed after positive coronavirus test

Freedompath comments on Jul 23, 2020:

The virus is creeping closer and closer...maybe...

“All those conclusions of ours which profess to lead us beyond the field of possible experience ...

Freedompath comments on Jul 22, 2020:

I am not sure I agree here...just have to think about it more!!!

She's got the goods on him

Freedompath comments on Jul 22, 2020:

Wonder if your sex video is in the bunch? Will Ghislaine cover for you?

Task-force briefing?

Freedompath comments on Jul 22, 2020:

If we can keep this ‘ship’ upright for 4/5 more months, this ‘ignoramus’ will be toast! Then we can put people in place that care more about their efforts to help our Country be a place that the people are progressing in, than their position in the government! People with heart!

This is How It Starts [youtu.be]

Freedompath comments on Jul 21, 2020:

Powerful ad!

Science knows no country, because knowledge belongs to humanity, and is the torch which illuminates ...

Freedompath comments on Jul 21, 2020:

This needs to be plastered over lampposts! Maybe, it would ring a bell over time?

He thinks he's above the law!

Freedompath comments on Jul 21, 2020:

Supporting actors...in trump’s criminal enterprise! Trump will be booted out in short order (even if 5 months does seem like another lifetime), and I hope he watches his back! ‘The higher they fly, the harder they fall!’ Science!

Trump, Even as Presdient, Still Can't Bear to Pay a Bill, But Now It Seems To Be Catching Up To ...

Freedompath comments on Jul 21, 2020:

Trump plays it by ear...this is a disaster in the making! Watch! Trump only sends money, to buy people who have covered his ass! Otherwise, he flashes money to entice people! Looks like easy money and big spenders until the favors are wanted! What a gangster government we have going at full force! Four more months...and the trump apple cart will be run off the cliff!

Nothing more to say....

Freedompath comments on Jul 21, 2020:

After I thought about it...trump’s whole life has been lived...all for ‘the show!’ He actually believed that he could sit in the president’s chair and ‘just run the show!’ How costly...Americans have paid with their lives and the remainder of us are working overtime, maintaining sanity! What an enormous COST from this one man’s delusions! 😱

Nothing more to say....

Freedompath comments on Jul 21, 2020:

Can’t believe trump has stopped checking the mirror to see if he has the ‘best’ face on! Ha ha

“Everything can be taken from a person but one thing: the last of the human freedoms.

Freedompath comments on Jul 21, 2020:

As hard as it may seem sometimes!

"I won't wear a mask in public because it makes me look ridiculous!"

Freedompath comments on Jul 21, 2020:

I DO remember this pic! A woman ‘gone wild!’

“Belief is the death of intelligence.” - Robert Anton Wilson

Freedompath comments on Jul 21, 2020:

Little difficult to get my head around! Beliefs can be changed and altered!

Melania: Donald, your psychological test results are here!

Freedompath comments on Jul 21, 2020:

That’s the correct diagnosis! A ME creature!

Feds Stay Clear... The Moms are here... This was posted on another group here: q:517284

Freedompath comments on Jul 21, 2020:

I sure hope this works! Those are some brave cats!

We are doing great, best response country in the world, that dude Fauci is a bit of an alarmist!

Freedompath comments on Jul 20, 2020:

Now this is ‘over the top’ and out of the Universe! But it did fit the blabber mouth!

This is the funniest (good comedy is based in reality) anti-tRump mop founders video I have ever ...

Freedompath comments on Jul 20, 2020:

That is the funniest thing that I have seen! I hope that it gets played EVERYWHERE, over and over AND OVER! 😂🤣🤣😂

PTSD/Generalized Depressive Disorder by artist Shawn Coss This sums it up pretty well.

Freedompath comments on Jul 20, 2020:

I’d say...that is exactly what it is like, until you succumb to the fact...that l am imperfect, life is imperfect...and I might as well stay in the game and see what ‘messes’ I can get myself into! 😂

Do you believe that things said in the heat of the moment are actually the feelings of that person?

Freedompath comments on Jul 20, 2020:

Words are said! When a person does not know himself/herself, they can speak cruel words...as they lash out at things they see/feel with another person, that they cannot understand. ‘That person,’ most likely has not accepted themselves fully (warts and all)... so they will have difficulty accepting another person as they are. I am who I am...my actions and personality is based on my personal development from childhood to the present time. If any action on my part offends, just tell me...maybe it is something that I can change...like an unkind/unaware behavior...if it is part of my personality, that I would consider to be unkind and hateful! I hope this helps.

The lockdown hasn’t affected me at all because I am already homebound.

Freedompath comments on Jul 20, 2020:

My heart goes out to you! I can almost feel your anguish, 😰. This may sound like an ‘order,’ but first off I would change the word that you are using to identify yourself here...’dead!’ You are clearly not dead, as you are expressing yourself here. I have no idea what your story is, but it needs to be told. After all it is one person’s track through their life, the same as anyone’s. I would be interested as to what your story is. Maybe, I could console with you? I feel sad that you are there without friends...what about loved ones? You are not alone, I hear your ‘cry,’ that cry matters! If this is all that you can count on...maybe sharing your situation, could free up enough ‘hope,’ to help you see, that you still matter to yourself! Maybe this can help as you carry on your journey...you are still here, and that is important. After you are gone, there will be plenty of time to be ‘dead!’ I would love to hear what has brought you to this ‘point?’ 😢

So I have been gone Fellow Agnostics but I've been having Wifi problems.

Freedompath comments on Jul 20, 2020:

Sorry about the health dilemma. I like your attitude, so just keep making every moment count for you...that is all there is anyway! Best of luck...🤗

Quote: We won two world wars, two beautiful world wars! If these are not the words of a madman What ...

Freedompath comments on Jul 20, 2020:

Fits our bozo to a T...

Trumpers are just like end of the world types, just keep moving the date and hope to get it right.

Freedompath comments on Jul 20, 2020:

In my mind...that is the most pathetic statement yet...this man is expert at figuring out how to never be wrong!

I worry this idiot will never be gone. [theintercept.com]

Freedompath comments on Jul 20, 2020:

The twisted way that trump operates in the world boggles the mind and is so very tiring! When he leaves THAT office, and has not died...I will have no reason to keep up (only somewhat now), with what he does! What amazes me is...the man completely believes he ‘shits gold bars!’ That’s the part that blows me away! I have never in life (80yr) witnessed such a person!

"Church and state are, and must remain, separate." - Ronald Reagan

Freedompath comments on Jul 19, 2020:

Yes, and why are the Republicans still working behind the scenes and in our face, determined to bring us to our knees, for a country of their religion? I don’t want it!

Winning at failing

Freedompath comments on Jul 19, 2020:

🤣😭🤣😭🤣

Mask or no mask?...

Freedompath comments on Jul 19, 2020:

How strange, but true! People feel so powerless they need a gun to have a disagreement!

Another good Lincoln Project video: > July th, 2020 - The Lincoln Project today released a new ...

Freedompath comments on Jul 19, 2020:

It is a sad day...because this ad hails the truth!

California churches take state to federal court over ban on singing during services

Freedompath comments on Jul 19, 2020:

This is the problem...using Scriptures to back up all your ideas! I head this so much growing up, and even at an early age, I couldn’t get that notion to compute! I began at an early age...calling family and others out on using the Scriptures to defend themselves with!

I feel tired of memes. Your thoughts?

Freedompath comments on Jul 19, 2020:

I can get over saturated with them. However, a lot of them get to the essence of a matter and I appreciate that. But, original thoughts from individuals, is appreciated the most.

Truer words...

Freedompath comments on Jul 19, 2020:

...and now we know how probable that is! Yes, vote this lunatic out and all the people who held him up as our ‘so-called-leader!’

Portland Protesters Set a Police Building on Fire - YouTube

Freedompath comments on Jul 19, 2020:

This is not going away easily! And I am surprised that it is taking place where it seemed pretty calm up to recently! We may be forced to expect this rioting anyplace, until trump is out of mind and sight! Trump has the support of ‘puffed up loggerhead,’ Barr...working to have his Christian nation! ( I can’t get his speeches out of my mind!) Barr has become an extremely dangerous man! He can send unidentified troops wherever, with impunity! Surely for 4 months, we can manage to hold our Country together?

Great music. [facebook.com]

Freedompath comments on Jul 19, 2020:

Great song, and timely! The ignorance of said leaders, is simply mind boggling!

“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend...

Freedompath comments on Jul 19, 2020:

I want succumb to ‘bamboozle,’ ...I cannot!

Oregon Sues!: [dailykos.com]

Freedompath comments on Jul 19, 2020:

I can’t help wondering who in this Country, would join such a ’candlestine’ unaccountable force? That by its very nature, is intended to undermine a democracy! Somehow this has got to get reversed, this is no better than the KKK, they just wear camouflage instead of sheets!

The Lincoln Project doesn't disappoint with this one! (Sad as it is.) The Wall [youtu.be]

Freedompath comments on Jul 19, 2020:

Sad, so sad that so many have died, that didn’t need to, if only we had a ‘straight shooter’ guiding America! My friend, that lives in Japan texted me the other day...’I just don’t understand what has happened to America?’ We who live here, can’t quite grasp our dilemma either!

I am posting this here bcz 2/3 of my darkness and misery and sad thoughts , and “ I f hate people ...

Freedompath comments on Jul 18, 2020:

😭😭😭...first things first! This is one of those times that I have cried tears for me and for the whole world! At least it lets some fresh air in and clears out enough space to carry on another day! Your heartache and frustration is palpable! You are appreciated...the lives you save may go on to do great things...the lives that you had to release, were sent out on wings of great care! That is all there is! However, hang on and do not give up...the fight is still being fought out here, with what we have! Hopefully, more productive ways will be found...for you fighting in the slug and for us fighting in the dark! Thank you for your abilities and your struggle to keep it all balanced. My grief is for you...others like you and for the people of the world who are trying to figure out what to do next, to change the sickening trend that we find ourselves. May we be successful somehow! 😭🤗

“The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it.” - Flannery O'Connor

Freedompath comments on Jul 18, 2020:

...nor to ignore it!

An idea for your consideration.

Freedompath comments on Jul 18, 2020:

Omg...I have to live in the real world right now...and this musing is over my head! My queasy stomach is not as sure though!

Trump took the role of the CDC to inform so that he can control it, so now...

Freedompath comments on Jul 18, 2020:

I hope trump goes to hell...the sooner the better!

I propose this conspiracy.

Freedompath comments on Jul 18, 2020:

Scary...just too scary to be forced to think about...my brain is rebelling (at the moment)!

He Can't Say these Folks Do Not Know HIm!: [dailykos.com]

Freedompath comments on Jul 18, 2020:

The words of a heartless lunatic! I bet few people around the would would not know who that is from just those two words! And trump behaves as if he is the ‘light’ that spews out of Mount Olympus!

Up until last week, a trip to the nearest wal mart ( 30 miles away:-) meant dodging through a store ...

Freedompath comments on Jul 18, 2020:

It is sad...and I think the Moran is still on the ‘anti-mask side?’ Yes, my Wal-mart patrons have mostly been wearing mask right out of the gate. It is for sure, if you must follow the lacks of trump...your mind and possibly your life hangs in the balance!

Some Good News, But, Will They Abide? [dailykos.com]

Freedompath comments on Jul 18, 2020:

We will see...John Lewis WAS a real hero! I am sorry he had to go...How we need more like him to work for the ‘best living’ in this Country can bring. His voice will be missed!

We live in interesting times.

Freedompath comments on Jul 18, 2020:

The word interesting may not cover these times! 👿

Yes they are as un-American as I am, but is it worth telling him

Freedompath comments on Jul 18, 2020:

Trump must have spent a lot of time twisting pretzels! Twisted is his best attribute!

Here is an easy one......

Freedompath comments on Jul 18, 2020:

How a man with no redeeming qualities got here...still mystifies me!

“Fear is the main source of superstition, and one of the main sources of cruelty.

Freedompath comments on Jul 18, 2020:

Yes!

Portland Mayor Says Feds Snatching Protestors Right Off the Streets Protesters say federal law ...

Freedompath comments on Jul 18, 2020:

And how proud these anonymous candlestine soldiers must be! This is not how we do things in this Country! Just another example of how our Country has been overrun with ‘behind the scenes, ‘ punishers! No accountability!

They the new Mob yo..

Freedompath comments on Jul 18, 2020:

Nailed it!

Doing singles for a while

Freedompath comments on Jul 18, 2020:

🤬...i’d say!!! Just waiting for the final finally of trump’s idea of American progress! Just 4- more months, of this ‘shit show!’

Chris Wallace pwns Orange Marmalade on Live TV

Freedompath comments on Jul 17, 2020:

There are no words...trump was had in ‘prime time’ and he kept right on protesting...his protesting! It is so sad that we are forced to claim this ‘dunce’ as our president! This horror show will surely end...