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I don't think that people on either side of this argument want this to be true.
SpikeTalon comments on Sep 4, 2018:
Bookmarked for later viewing.
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 4, 2018:
@MikeFlora Sending people to the Moon and protecting people are two different things, as for the most part we wouldn't have to worry much about suicidal madmen trying to kill astronauts. It wasn't dealt with after Columbine because it is something I don't think can be permanently dealt with because no one is a mindreader and could predict when someone might snap and go on a rampage. Public schools should screen more carefully who all enters/wants entry into the buildings, and only reinforced doors should be used, that would be a start. I don't have kids either (not yet anyway), but if I did I'd look into cyber schooling for them.
A Night At The Fair. The Great Allentown Fair 2018. All photos taken by me on Labor Day.
azzow2 comments on Sep 4, 2018:
That atmosphere kind of takes your memory back to when you were young I am sure.
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 4, 2018:
@azzow2 That stand is by the entrance to the farmers market across from Ag Hall, right behind Vince's cheesesteaks usually, if you could picture where Vince's is. They've been in the same spots for as long as I can remember. From the years 2004-2006 there was a dart game in which the targets were small red stars, and I won like crazy all three of those years. The stand owner even made a point of saying that I cleaned him out. The following year in 2007 he was gone and hasn't been back since.
A Night At The Fair. The Great Allentown Fair 2018. All photos taken by me on Labor Day.
Shelton comments on Sep 4, 2018:
I used to live within walking distance to the Allentown Fairgrounds. The MainGate was one of my hangouts. I kind of miss the Lehigh Valley
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 4, 2018:
@azzow2 Same here, was born in Allentown (the hospital across the street from the Fairgrounds actually) but went to school in Emmaus.
A Night At The Fair. The Great Allentown Fair 2018. All photos taken by me on Labor Day.
Shelton comments on Sep 4, 2018:
I used to live within walking distance to the Allentown Fairgrounds. The MainGate was one of my hangouts. I kind of miss the Lehigh Valley
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 4, 2018:
Cool, how long ago was that? The LV is okay, there are some interesting things to go to. I live less than six miles away from the Fairgrounds. Yeah, The Maingate is still pretty popular, especially during Fair time. Did you ever go to the Fair?
A Night At The Fair. The Great Allentown Fair 2018. All photos taken by me on Labor Day.
azzow2 comments on Sep 4, 2018:
That atmosphere kind of takes your memory back to when you were young I am sure.
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 4, 2018:
Sure does, and aside from who runs the carnival midway now not that much has changed since I was a kid, and most likely nothing much has changed since the last time you were there. Speaking of which, do you remember a game stand called Uncle Nick's Candy? You put a quarter on a number and if your number comes up you win. I won three times (six candy bars) this year at the fair on $1.75.
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Trajan61 comments on Sep 4, 2018:
You think Cinch or Wrangler is acceptable?
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 4, 2018:
I would need to do some research on both of them first before I could be able to determine that much... I'd be interested in their political affiliations.
Another company to boycott, Levi Strauss & Co. [ammoland.com]
bigpawbullets comments on Sep 4, 2018:
I don't buy Levi brand anything.
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 4, 2018:
@Trajan61 I buy alot of my clothes at the local Army Navy Store, as they mostly carry hunting brands etc.
Another company to boycott, Levi Strauss & Co. [ammoland.com]
bigpawbullets comments on Sep 4, 2018:
I don't buy Levi brand anything.
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 4, 2018:
Thankfully I don't either.
Another company to boycott, Levi Strauss & Co. [ammoland.com]
Leutrelle comments on Sep 4, 2018:
Man now I have to quit wearing Levi's? Shit! and I have wore them my entire life. Is there nothing sacred left in this world?
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 4, 2018:
That's what I've often wondered, Leutrelle.
I heard some folks on this site were "worried" about this group I started.
bigpawbullets comments on Sep 1, 2018:
Worried? Oh my. ;-)
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 4, 2018:
@Besalbub Oh, but I do understand why some folks hate guns, and I respect their opinions. I only have a problem when members of the gun control crowd insist on forcing their views on me, if they don't like guns it is their freedom to not buy any, I resent it when they tell me I should do the same as them. I strongly think that some good ideas have been mentioned in this group already that would be productive for both sides, and to a lesser extent Mike must feel the same or otherwise I'm sure he would have abandoned this group by now if he didn't see any hope on the horizon...
I heard some folks on this site were "worried" about this group I started.
bigpawbullets comments on Sep 1, 2018:
Worried? Oh my. ;-)
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 4, 2018:
@MikeFlora The only thing is guns do not drop themselves, human beings still need to mishandle them in order for what you described to take place. Guns do not need to be dealt with any different than the next object, responsibility is the key there.
I don't think that people on either side of this argument want this to be true.
SpikeTalon comments on Sep 4, 2018:
Bookmarked for later viewing.
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 4, 2018:
@MikeFlora At the time of my original comment I didn't have the time to view the link you supplied. I don't see how taking precautions is ever a negative thing, the effect it may have on school kids is another story. Some kids will be bothered by such drills while others would not, and that somewhat depends on their upbringing. Parents these days seem to be raising some really fruity ass kids who freak out over the slightest provocation, and that doesn't help the situation. Mankind does not have solutions to every single problem, and some things in life may be out of our control. Should it be the norm to put school kids through such drills? Perhaps not, but telling them otherwise I think would be a lie, as the criminal element appears to be on the rise. Making sure children get a decent education falls largely on the shoulders of the teachers, as not every kid is going to let drills interfere with their learning, but having poor teachers would affect them however. Sometimes in life we have to do things that we really don't like but do so anyway because it's for the best, and I still say having at least a few teachers who went through training should be armed, but the liberals (most of them anyway) don't want to even consider that much. On a side note, I honestly believe that potentially viable solutions to that problem were brought up in some of the groups on this site more than what our politicians have come up with so far.
[gunpowdermagazine.com]
Leutrelle comments on Sep 4, 2018:
It is only a matter of time before our defense of the second amendment will require blood in order to keep that freedom. I truly wonder how many will take that final stand.
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 4, 2018:
I know I will as there's no other choice.
[gunpowdermagazine.com]
MikeFlora comments on Sep 4, 2018:
I agree with the idea, not with the method. Crazy people shouldn't have guns, I don't think anybody can argue with that. How do we determine who is crazy enough to go on a rampage, and who just rubs shit in their hair? Those who sacrifice freedom for security, deserve neither. We're flirting with ...
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 4, 2018:
Those who genuinely represent a threat to society should be locked up. We determine such after due process has taken its course. Abuses of individual liberty need not should occur in order to preserve public safety. At present time a viable solution has yet to present itself. My main concern there is abuses occuring just to get even with someone, and you know as well as I do that is bound to happen in some cases.
Live from the Allentown Fair.
azzow2 comments on Sep 3, 2018:
Have not seen that place in many years. Do they still do the farmers market on the weekends? Strohs had closed in 2001 I had moved away in 2003.
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 3, 2018:
You remember that building in the background I'm sure...
Live from the Allentown Fair.
azzow2 comments on Sep 3, 2018:
Have not seen that place in many years. Do they still do the farmers market on the weekends? Strohs had closed in 2001 I had moved away in 2003.
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 3, 2018:
Yeah, Farmers Market is open on weekends, and of course right now.
Live from the Allentown Fair.
rogueflyer comments on Sep 3, 2018:
Gotta say I hate fair carney rides. Happened to be on a ride following someone who must have eaten something greasy and it didn't sit well. Happened a very long time ago but I remember it like yesterday.
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 3, 2018:
I enjoyed the rides when I was a teen, but not that much anymore. I do however usually go on one spectacular thrill ride.
Live from the Allentown Fair.
Leutrelle comments on Sep 3, 2018:
I love those old school fairs with 4H club. I especially like the food:)
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 3, 2018:
The food is my favorite.
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Omen6Actual comments on Sep 2, 2018:
Lower taxes, stop giving anything to illegals, stop violating individual rights, remove state income tax, stop giving out drugs and punishing people with straws, stop giving overpaid liars/characters (hollywood) more and unequal representation over the hard working Americans who actually remain, get...
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 2, 2018:
The keyword there is maybe...
Exceptions apply when dealing with the two-party monopoly...
Ozman comments on Sep 2, 2018:
So very very true. I've heard it said that Republicans want freedom for your wallet and control of your bedroom, whilst Democrats want freedom of your bedroom and control of your wallet. It's also been said that a young conservative has no heart, and an old liberal has no brain.
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 2, 2018:
Sounds about right to me. I'm still relatively young and one of the things I loosely identify as is a conservative, I'm just not a Republican is all, and I do have heart. Afterall... Oz never did give anything to the Tinman, nothing he didn't already have...
I heard some folks on this site were "worried" about this group I started.
bigpawbullets comments on Sep 1, 2018:
Worried? Oh my. ;-)
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 1, 2018:
@bigpawbullets I know, right? Thinking about changing my name to ICEman, that should scare the lib progressive folks on here, or at the least give them a headache...
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MikeFlora comments on Sep 1, 2018:
I can understand the problem the Gov't has with 3d guns and the plans for it. No control of what kind or how many, not to mention no murder weapon(shoot somebody and just melt the damn thing). In the name of public safety, allows the gov't to go places a lot of people don't like, then comes the 1st ...
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 1, 2018:
@MikeFlora Again, it's not so much a 2A issue as it is a 1A one, it is about the suppression of knowledge. Besides, alot of folks already know how to make their own untraceable weapons, so why get worked up over 3D printable guns? I get what you're saying though.
Anyone else here concerned about how biometric gun lock technology could be abused or fail when ...
bigpawbullets comments on Sep 1, 2018:
I insist my firearms be as technically simple (reliable) and accessible as possible. I'll pass on this nonsense.
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 1, 2018:
You and I both on that.
Anyone else here concerned about how biometric gun lock technology could be abused or fail when ...
Besalbub comments on Sep 1, 2018:
I think biometric tech sucks I bought a biometric safe , and I work with my hands . If you have a cut finger paint on a finger it doesn't work .
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 1, 2018:
I'm inclined to agree. At least half of the times I can't use the fingerprint censor on my mobile device because the tech can be touchy, I couldn't imagine the same unreliable tech being used on gun safety locks...
I heard some folks on this site were "worried" about this group I started.
bigpawbullets comments on Sep 1, 2018:
Worried? Oh my. ;-)
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 1, 2018:
@MikeFlora Yeah, seriously. Some guy a few days ago did a public poll asking how other members felt about my group, and I really argued with him on that post. I knew about that poll you did in your old group, and I kinda get the feeling that alot of the members in that group aren't really that active on here anymore. That's a bummer Mike in regards to your poll, you would think your fellow members would have cared a bit more than they did...
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MikeFlora comments on Sep 1, 2018:
I can understand the problem the Gov't has with 3d guns and the plans for it. No control of what kind or how many, not to mention no murder weapon(shoot somebody and just melt the damn thing). In the name of public safety, allows the gov't to go places a lot of people don't like, then comes the 1st ...
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 1, 2018:
There are quite a few consumer products available on the market that are technically not safe, but not enough is done to remedy that. When we start to go down the route of banning certain things (in this case supposedly because they are untraceable), where does the banning mentality end. The debate over 3D printable guns is not so much a 2A issue but rather more a 1A one, no one should have the right to suppress the spreading of knowledge, as knowledge is neither good or bad. This has been a concern of mine for some time now, as the government already has too much power, I don't see the sense in helping them more.
I heard some folks on this site were "worried" about this group I started.
bigpawbullets comments on Sep 1, 2018:
Worried? Oh my. ;-)
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 1, 2018:
Did you see that post where someone actually did a poll asking if this group should be allowed on this site?
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azzow2 comments on Sep 1, 2018:
I will have to check it out later on the pc the kindle is no so friendly to look at this kind of thing.
SpikeTalon replies on Sep 1, 2018:
I'll be taking more photos of the Fair and will share them on the public threads. I took some videos, but you cannot upload your own videos on this site though.
Is it worrying that there is a ProGunRights in this forum?
Captnron59 comments on Aug 30, 2018:
There is no sensible control over anything that we as Americans have a right to have. When we become unarmed we are open for defeat from within our own government. I will defend my right to bear arms. Why would we want only the criminals to have guns? That's what will happen. Live and let live. It's...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 31, 2018:
@Captnron59 I agree with everything you said. The government already has too much power. When someone who is minding their own business could get incarcerated over possessing one lousy marijuana joint, there is something dreadfully wrong in this country.
People often say we have the most gun rights in the the world.
azzow2 comments on Aug 30, 2018:
I happen to find gun nuts rather the kind of people I like to know. With all the lost U238 and plutonium Russia has contributed from lax security on the heavy metal storage facilities. The fear of a dirty atomic bomb weighs in my head as well.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 31, 2018:
Regarding your first sentence, I'm inclined to agree with you. The last part of your comment... yeah, that is something to think about, not a pleasant thought for sure.
Is it worrying that there is a ProGunRights in this forum?
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 29, 2018:
In your bio you claim to be a Libertarian who is opposed to all forms of censorship, so why does my group worry you? If you don't like it just move along. Your second polling option is not accurate, my Pro Gun Rights group is not an extremist group, and fellow members of that group simply believe ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 30, 2018:
@Pete66 Who said anything about a damned safe space? The groups on here are intended to be for like minded individuals. Do you have any idea how upset the gun control group got in the past when opposing views presented themselves? Some of us didn't come here to debate or argue with others, but to connect with like minded individuals. If you're into debating then why don't you specifically start a debate group then and leave me alone.
Is it worrying that there is a ProGunRights in this forum?
Renickulous comments on Aug 29, 2018:
Lol your worried others have opposing ideas and like to talk to like minded people?
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 29, 2018:
@PontifexMarximus My group is to promote gun rights, not ownership per se, and would additionally appeal to those who are shooting sport enthusiasts. The regulations you referred to have been colossal failures, which is why I am against them. If someone does not like or desire to own firearms, I can respect that, they don't however have a right to tell me what I can and cannot own in a free country. No one in the pro gun rights group has ever made a hostile or threatening gesture at anyone else on this site, and promoting gun rights for all does not automatically equate to not being peaceful. On the flip side, a few months back in the gun control group there were some extremely hostile comments made including one where some lady said she wished she could line up every gun owner and NRA member and mow them down with an AR-15. How's that for peaceful, huh? That lady was from my home state, and she had no idea how close she came to being reported to the Pennsylvania State Police over that one. There have been other rather unproductive posts in the gun control group, that was just one example. I defy anyone to tell me their usual approach is any more peaceful than the approach I take, and keep in mind I never suggested anything as vile as she did. The part in all that that really cracks me up is the fact that alot of those on the liberal left who support gun control legislation also support groups like ANTIFA and BLM both of which are well known to be violent and far removed from peace.
Is it worrying that there is a ProGunRights in this forum?
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 29, 2018:
In your bio you claim to be a Libertarian who is opposed to all forms of censorship, so why does my group worry you? If you don't like it just move along. Your second polling option is not accurate, my Pro Gun Rights group is not an extremist group, and fellow members of that group simply believe ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 29, 2018:
@PontifexMarximus Neither of them were ludicrous. Regarding your question, how so? What is it exactly you are looking for? How could scenarios that involve self defense with a firearm be biased, they are what they are and either occured or didn't. My speed data for this month has been used up which means slow net speeds, and I'll be busy over the holiday weekend, but I will certainly get back to you on that.
Would you (knowingly) date a Trump supporter?
IamNobody comments on Aug 29, 2018:
Trump supporter, Hillary supporter, Pence supporter, Bernie supporter, Republican, Democrat, Independent, Apolitical....don't really care......anyone really as long as it is a good person, cute, independent, productive, intelligent, fun to be around, even a bible freak for as long as there is no ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 29, 2018:
Good way to be.
Is it worrying that there is a ProGunRights in this forum?
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 29, 2018:
In your bio you claim to be a Libertarian who is opposed to all forms of censorship, so why does my group worry you? If you don't like it just move along. Your second polling option is not accurate, my Pro Gun Rights group is not an extremist group, and fellow members of that group simply believe ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 29, 2018:
@PontifexMarximus I included the part about debating because that particular group was not intended for debate, just like for the most part the gun control group is not for debating but like-minded individuals. Also, from past experience there are alot of folks on this site who cannot debate or converse in a civil manner, so I set that group up for like-minded members mostly. There is no such thing as "sensible" gun control measures, it's only about control, and I have no choice but to be opposed to said measures because they have been and continue to be a huge failure. Creating a group that limits debating is hardly extreme when you consider all the groups out there that would welcome it because that would be the purpose of such groups, and based on feedback I got from fellow group members most of them have said they shouldn't have to deal with trolling. There is nothing ludicrous about owning/using guns for self-defense, more often than not they are the most efficient means of home defense should the need arise, and based on your response you obviously didn't get the point I was trying to make in regards to that. It had nothing to do whatsoever with comparing the two scenarios.
Is it worrying that there is a ProGunRights in this forum?
snytiger6 comments on Aug 29, 2018:
Don't liek it (pro-gun rights groups), but I believe in freedom of speech and freedom of association, so I dont' believe in banning them.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 29, 2018:
I can certainly respect your personal opinion on that matter, and thank you for standing up for free speech/expression.
Ok, let’s try to keep this civil and all, but as self identifying Conservatives, are you a Trumpet...
sfvpool comments on Aug 29, 2018:
I voted for Ted Cruz in the primaries and Trump in the general election. I think Trump was one of the worst choices and still do, but better than Clinton.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 29, 2018:
Once you reach level 4 you are more than welcome to join this group- "Conservative Atheists Group"
What damage has social media caused to the individual?
p-nullifidian comments on Aug 28, 2018:
I am in the camp of 'net harm' caused by social media. Former Facebook executive, Chamath Palihapitiya's conversation about the medium he helped start is refreshingly blunt. What does it tell you when a guy who became a billionaire from the site he helped start doesn't use it and won't let his ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 28, 2018:
I'm sharing that video with everyone I know, and thank you for sharing it here.
What damage has social media caused to the individual?
azzow2 comments on Aug 27, 2018:
What about the connection with all the people you would have otherwise had never met. It is just a parallel in this world that give a much broader life connection
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 28, 2018:
@azzow2 You raise a solid point there, and had it not been for this site I would not have met a fellow HS alumni. It does come down to how an individual chooses to use social media platforms.
[thefederalist.com] A classic example of hypocrisy from the gun control fanatics...
MikeFlora comments on Aug 14, 2018:
She was definitely a hypocrite. That's the shit that pisses me off, she does it, and now I have to hear about it. Every time this happens, I lose a little piece of whatever credibility I may have.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 28, 2018:
You don't lose credibility per se, but rather some of the arguments proposed by the left lose credibility...
I am so glad you guys are here.
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 27, 2018:
I'm glad you like this group and the others I host, and we (fellow CA group members) are glad you are here. I don't bother that much with the public posts anymore, it's the same old tired nonsense ninety something percent of those on this site chat about on a daily basis. Truth be told, if there ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 27, 2018:
@Leutrelle Pro Gun Rights is a group I had started, but not this one though, I got assigned this group when it became known that the original host had left the site. I'm happy though hosting here, this is a good group.
After I screwed up my account and lost my groups, I thought the people hosting them wanted to be ...
educatedredneck comments on Aug 27, 2018:
Well, I'd still appreciate a rational discussion where people respond to specific points, but that could happen regardless of who admins the group. If possible, and it might not be, I'd like to see an agreement between this group and the gun rights group on no trolling either group.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 27, 2018:
I agree with you on the trolling part, and I seldom ever swing by this group, usually just to see if any opposing views to this group were shared. I figure being that Mike is a member of my group and could give feedback, there's no need for me to be in any of the liberal groups. I'm somewhat even split on that, at times I think any of those with views that go contrary to what a group intends should not join that group, unless said group is dedicated to debating. Aside from Mike I had offered to allow like two others from his group to join mine, and only one other joined but was booted from this site due to harassing posts he left. Actually, the CA group I host has been targeted by trolls more than the Pro Gun Rights group.
I've been a fan of the show ' the Atheist Experience ' for about a decade.
p-nullifidian comments on Aug 21, 2018:
Apart from behavior, the caller's arguments are made all the more weaker by the recent revelations in Pennsylvania.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 27, 2018:
I'm from Pennsylvania, and rather sickening revelations they were...
Something our forefathers intended and needs to respected and followed.
Trajan61 comments on Aug 26, 2018:
Keep in mind we conservatives can’t afford to alienate the religous right as we can’t win an election without them. Trump has figured that out and caters to them even though he’s likely not a Christain himself. So for now we need to accept the religous right as our ally against the libtards. ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 27, 2018:
@Trajan61 I banned that knucklehead who commented on how the Pro Gun Rights group has few members.
Something our forefathers intended and needs to respected and followed.
Trajan61 comments on Aug 26, 2018:
Keep in mind we conservatives can’t afford to alienate the religous right as we can’t win an election without them. Trump has figured that out and caters to them even though he’s likely not a Christain himself. So for now we need to accept the religous right as our ally against the libtards. ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 27, 2018:
@Leutrelle As a group host I can share one post every two weeks on the public feed, and the option to do so is available when I go to post. I have shared a few posts already from all the groups I host. I myself am not sure how to share posts like Trajan did.
Thoughts?
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 27, 2018:
Hey Hicks, good to read you. I don't think that is as much of a conservative issue directly as it is a social one. Regarding trades taking a hit... from my own personal experience (no college yet but went to tech school) I think trades have taken a blow somewhat given most of the emphasis is put on ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 27, 2018:
@Hicks66 Precisely, couldn't have said it better. Blue collar background here as well.
I started an organization called GunSafetySociety.
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 27, 2018:
Excellent to hear. When I get the chance I'll check out your site. The information exchange could go both ways, I'll see if I have (or could find anything helpful) any info to contribute, and likewise I will promote your organization in the pro gun rights/free speech group I started on the "other" ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 27, 2018:
I did a post in my group to promote Gun Safety Society.
Something our forefathers intended and needs to respected and followed.
Trajan61 comments on Aug 26, 2018:
Keep in mind we conservatives can’t afford to alienate the religous right as we can’t win an election without them. Trump has figured that out and caters to them even though he’s likely not a Christain himself. So for now we need to accept the religous right as our ally against the libtards. ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 27, 2018:
@Trajan61 On another note, I don't know how you go about doing that, but I have to hand it to you on posting in both public and our CA group at the same time, good idea. That way you could state your opinion on the public threads freely mostly worry free, because if someone wanted to comment on your post to argue with you they would first have to join the CA group in order to comment if I'm not mistaken, and if I catch any knuckleheads joining this group to bash conservatives their name will be added to the ban list. Good method you found there. As a group host, I can only share one post every two weeks.
Something our forefathers intended and needs to respected and followed.
Omen6Actual comments on Aug 26, 2018:
Hell, even the leftards can agree to this one!
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 26, 2018:
Can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually agree with them on that.
Something our forefathers intended and needs to respected and followed.
Trajan61 comments on Aug 26, 2018:
Keep in mind we conservatives can’t afford to alienate the religous right as we can’t win an election without them. Trump has figured that out and caters to them even though he’s likely not a Christain himself. So for now we need to accept the religous right as our ally against the libtards. ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 26, 2018:
I do find it much easier to break bread with the religious fanatics than I do the liberal progressives. The religion part aside, along with reproductive rights and maybe one other thing that's not coming to mind at the moment, the progressive left and myself just don't see eye to eye. The Constitution needs to be adhered to...all of it. A balance needs to be struck, we can be fair to the religious and allow them their beliefs, but when any attempts are made to inject religion into our politics I will have something to say about that. In the meantime, I hope a group like Republican Atheists grows stronger and gives the religious infestation a run for its money.
Interesting read, I'll be doing some more research on that... [thetruthaboutguns.com]
MikeFlora comments on Aug 26, 2018:
That's all well and good but it's not even cartridge loading, it's still powder and ball and a long way from a AR-15.I'm going to give up on this one, OK founding fathers knew about repeaters, can we move on to something else now?
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 26, 2018:
It's never a bad thing to have knowledge, which is why I shared that article. If a post doesn't interest you, you could always just skip over it. The point was that multi round/auto weapon concepts did exist during the days of the founder's.
In my home state of Pennsylvania I personally know quite a few registered Democrats who voted for ...
bigpawbullets comments on Aug 26, 2018:
I find the levels of rage and "disdain" from both sides amazing. I've never seen our country so divided.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 26, 2018:
Right you are, and neither have I before.
The true costs of the War in Afghanistan
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 25, 2018:
Good read, thank you for sharing, and looked like that article was published on my birthday no less.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 25, 2018:
@SkotlandSkye Thank you.
The true costs of the War in Afghanistan
IAMGROOT comments on Aug 24, 2018:
I agree. Our government is pissing away the wealth of this nation. "Defense" spending is only the tip of the iceberg. We're teetering on the precipice of socialism now and things may get much worse.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 25, 2018:
@IAMGROOT I agree wholeheartedly.
Glad her idea backfired on her... [ammoland.com]
MikeFlora comments on Aug 25, 2018:
Guns in school are not going to sit well with a lot of people. There is something about having guns around kids that isn't going to be the answer, for a lot of people, to mass shooters. I don't like it, I think it's just going to get people shot on both sides of the room. What I think don't matter ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 25, 2018:
I think the idea of guns in schools doesn't sit well with some due to fears that have not been properly addressed. We protect our politicians with guns, so why wouldn't we do the same for our kids? If I'm not mistaken, that story took place at a university which means adults and not kids. I get ya on the people getting shot on both sides, but only allowing for the possible situation of an armed assailant being the only one armed is not a good idea either and in doing so has gotten people killed. In other words, the scenario you mentioned and what I just said could and have gotten people killed, the solution may or may not have made itself known yet. I agree with you on the tolerance part, and why not let that start with you? You seem to be trying to do just that and I commend you for such, unfortunately alot of those on the political left do not feel as you do, but of course both sides have a hand in that much though.
This was too good not to share.
MikeFlora comments on Aug 24, 2018:
Very Funny dickhead. lol
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 24, 2018:
@MikeFlora Ah, okay then.
No surprises there, the progressive Democrat agenda is screwed up.
azzow2 comments on Aug 23, 2018:
I have a question that doesn't seem to come up. Why is it only latino being deported? There are lots of Asian people that do the same thing and worse damage to our system.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 24, 2018:
@MikeFlora I'd agree with that, equal focus should be paid to all illegals not just a certain group.
I'll take capitalism over socialism any day... [thefederalist.com]
MikeFlora comments on Aug 24, 2018:
Really need some of both. Capitalism is fine, but not at the expense of the environment or future generations.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 24, 2018:
Capitalism is not the only thing that hurts the environment, and more social welfare programs would not benefit future generations in the long run.
This was too good not to share.
MikeFlora comments on Aug 24, 2018:
Very Funny dickhead. lol
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 24, 2018:
Now now Mike, do I call you vulgar names when I disagree with you? Did I ever join a group you host just to name call and insult you? Of course not. Remember what you said on respect, you have to give it to earn it. The above post would be appropriate for this group, and if you disagree with me I can respect that. Also, at one time in the Community Senate you had stated you are really trying to be the better man... sure doesn't look that way. Just in case you hadn't noticed I'm not unreasonable, and at times when you are level headed in the pro gun group I'm inclined to be fair in return.
No surprises there, the progressive Democrat agenda is screwed up.
azzow2 comments on Aug 23, 2018:
I have a question that doesn't seem to come up. Why is it only latino being deported? There are lots of Asian people that do the same thing and worse damage to our system.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 24, 2018:
@MikeFlora That statue you referred to mentioned nothing about accepting illegals into our country. The liberal left wants to work everyone up into a frenzy by claiming that Trump wants to ban all immigrants and close our borders permanently, this is not true however. The muslim ban (which was temporary and not permanent by the way) was more than justified, we are presently and have been at war with radical islam for many years now and the muslims wish death on "infidels" like us Mike, Trump made a good move there in helping to keep this country somewhat secure by doing so. I understand you personally may not feel this way, but many if not most of your fellow liberal progressives are for totally open borders, which is not only illogical but potentially dangerous as well. If we want our country to be reasonably safe and prosperous, then everyone needs to respect national laws. Perhaps more funding should go to communication efforts, have a task force that can communicate with those who do not speak english so as to assist them in doing the right thing and become a documented citizen.
I never have and never will do business with Amazon. [bearingarms.com]
Christiep77 comments on Aug 23, 2018:
Can you explain what this means exactly? I’m a bit lost on what exactly they are doing.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 23, 2018:
@MikeFlora In subtle ways you could be supporting the suppression of free speech if you follow certain agendas. Also, I wasn't particularly focusing on Amazon when I said that, it was a general statement across the board and certain agendas are trying to prevent 3D gun blueprints from being distributed online. Either way, don't care for Amazon's policies and Bezos has been known to get political at times.
I never have and never will do business with Amazon. [bearingarms.com]
Christiep77 comments on Aug 23, 2018:
Can you explain what this means exactly? I’m a bit lost on what exactly they are doing.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 23, 2018:
@Christiep77 No reason that I heard as of yet. I can respect their stance as well, I just won't do business with them is all.
I never have and never will do business with Amazon. [bearingarms.com]
azzow2 comments on Aug 23, 2018:
Think it is more for a legal reason, for the lawsuit happy people and Amazon has a lot of money to sue for.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 23, 2018:
Yeah, alot of those in the gun control crowd are sure sue happy, good point there.
I never have and never will do business with Amazon. [bearingarms.com]
Christiep77 comments on Aug 23, 2018:
Can you explain what this means exactly? I’m a bit lost on what exactly they are doing.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 23, 2018:
According to the update in the above article, Amazon has pulled the book from sale now. I brought up that topic because I'm against anyone suppressing knowledge from being shared and it is also tied into the gun debate, and lately there has been quite a bit of ado over the sharing of 3D printable gun blueprints.
No surprises there, the progressive Democrat agenda is screwed up.
azzow2 comments on Aug 23, 2018:
I have a question that doesn't seem to come up. Why is it only latino being deported? There are lots of Asian people that do the same thing and worse damage to our system.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 23, 2018:
Not sure I could reasonably answer that either way, I have to do some research on that one. I imagine there are plenty of Asians that do that, but I suppose there is more ado over the Mexican illegals as Mexico shares a border with us whereas no Asian country does.
This was too good not to share.
DarrelScott comments on Aug 23, 2018:
Or gun control, crime control and the failures of socialism.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 23, 2018:
@DarrelScott I had sent it.
This was too good not to share.
DarrelScott comments on Aug 23, 2018:
Or gun control, crime control and the failures of socialism.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 23, 2018:
@DarrelScott Okay, I'll have to do the original message over then.
This was too good not to share.
DarrelScott comments on Aug 23, 2018:
Or gun control, crime control and the failures of socialism.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 23, 2018:
I had sent you a message a few weeks ago, not sure if you got it or not. The messenger gives me trouble sometimes, I get the offline symbol alot for some reason.
I did a post on this topic in another group, can't wait to see the feedback I get.
azzow2 comments on Aug 22, 2018:
This sounds more like a crime of passion. If the guy was not illegal it would not have gotten national coverage.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 22, 2018:
Nah, there was national coverage on that story for a few weeks now, before they found out she was murdered and her murderer was an illegal.
DT said "This shouldn't have happened.
Trajan61 comments on Aug 22, 2018:
It’s pretty easy to get pissed off listening to those liberal idiots on the main forum of this website.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 22, 2018:
@Trajan61 I get sick of them as well, I don't even bother much with the public posts anymore. If it wasn't for the conservative group and the ones I host, I probably would have bailed on this site long ago. I can fully understand why Jayneonacobb left from this site.
Yet another story of an illegal immigrant that killed a fellow American- [amp.
MikeFlora comments on Aug 22, 2018:
I know they aren't all saints either, but calling someone a criminal just because they're here illegally, and because they broke one law they are automatically going to break other laws isn't true. I've been, and known plenty of people, that broke one law, and didn't break any other laws ever. I ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 22, 2018:
When someone breaks a law or does something illegal, society calls people like that a criminal, doesn't matter if they broke only one law as all it takes is only breaking a single law. That's reality. Saying not all illegals are violent criminals is not the point, it only takes one and we do have a problem in keeping our borders secure. A young woman lost her life...where the hell are all the same liberals who cry over shootings? Afterall, one life is one too many I'm led to believe. I'm not accusing all illegals of committing crimes, just saying precaution should be taken when dealing with people who attempt to circumvent our laws. Government spending on immigration would not be the only thing being overspent, many other programs consume great amounts of taxpayer dollars but once again the liberal left doesn't complain much about them, not the least I see anyway. The father you cited above that was a working member of society for years, did he have a warrant issued for his arrest? That sort of scenario happens almost daily to fellow Americans, as that's what happens when someone breaks the law, why get upset over that much?
Looks like this subject may change drastically in the very near future.
educatedredneck comments on Aug 22, 2018:
How so? Do you think the Mueller investigation will impact immigration? Ive been busy tho, is there something else going on w immigration?
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 22, 2018:
Yes...another damn illegal immigrant killed a twenty year old woman and it's all over the news.
I'll take capitalism over socialism any day... [thefederalist.com]
DUCHESSA comments on Aug 22, 2018:
By any chance...are you thinking that Socialism and Communism are one and the same?
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 22, 2018:
They are two different things.
I'll take capitalism over socialism any day... [thefederalist.com]
DUCHESSA comments on Aug 22, 2018:
By any chance...are you thinking that Socialism and Communism are one and the same?
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 22, 2018:
Nope.
I was asked to forward this from a friend of mine, the topic is immigration.
Lancer comments on Aug 20, 2018:
I try not to express my opinions in public because the left has indoctrinated people like the ANTIFA Nazis to silence us by force. The Gestapo are ANTIFA. Freedom of speech in most of the west is dead. I'm just going to move back to my country if the UK falls. The west is in declune, the US is ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 21, 2018:
@Lancer The United Nations needs to go bye bye...
I'm going to start with the environment, most of this wall will be going through pretty harsh ...
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 19, 2018:
Regarding the environmental/animal issues, simply put, life will find a way. Over the ages mankind has undoubtedly built structures that have/could have interferred with animal life, but animal instincts have a way of getting around that and finding alternatives. Even we human beings are capable of ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 19, 2018:
@MikeFlora I agree, but there is a rather simplistic and legal way of assisting them. Perhaps more focus should be put on reaching out to these people? That might be the longterm solution. Even the poorest of the poor can obtain the proper documentation. When my great grandparents on my mother's side of the family came to here from Italy, they were flat broke but still made sure they did the right thing so as to fit in society. As for what politicians have to say on the matter, well, can't honestly say I care about the agendas they push, people need to think about issues like immigration etc for themselves more and form their own opinions. Our politics have become so slanted it's not funny.
Just when you thought the gun control crowd couldn't get any more lame... [americanlookout.com]
MikeFlora comments on Aug 19, 2018:
What a idiot.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 19, 2018:
Glad to see you acknowledge that Mike. I grew up (and I'm sure you did too) playing with water pistols and doing so never made me violent or careless. Society has gotten too soft, and kids these days are coddled way more than need be.
The anti-gun crowd is touting the fact that they've many more members in their group than our 32.
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 18, 2018:
So who from the gun control group were bragging about their membership numbers?
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 18, 2018:
@bigpawbullets Ah...you mean soy boy.
Has anyone on here heard anything from @bucketlistbob? Know that we are all thinking about you.
Shelton comments on Aug 9, 2018:
He hasn't been active lately. I hope he is okay
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 18, 2018:
Even after our comments got deleted, he kept it up and was eventually reported for harassment, and since then he has not been back on here.
Has anyone on here heard anything from @bucketlistbob? Know that we are all thinking about you.
Shelton comments on Aug 9, 2018:
He hasn't been active lately. I hope he is okay
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 18, 2018:
He might not be coming back. Shortly before his noted absence, he and I had it out on one of Admin's public posts, and said dispute started over a comment I had made suggesting a few ways I could help Admin promote this site and Bob misunderstood my suggestions. It wasn't enough for him to simply disagree with my suggestions, he had to hurl insults and publicly bash me, in which quite a few others were witness to, and that prompted me to go on the offense and things got rather ugly from there with Admin eventually deleting all of our comments. Up to that time I had gotten along well with him and enjoyed his posts, so to say that I was blindsided by his public attack on my character would be an understatement. With the way he acted, can't honestly say I miss him...
Am I the only one that is suspicious of people that don’t have at least one clear picture of ...
MikeFlora comments on Aug 17, 2018:
I'm not trying to hide anything, I just don't have any decent pics of me.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 18, 2018:
Uh huh, I hear ya Mike... I haven't posted any photos of myself for the obvious reason. Face it Mike, we host (have hosted) some rather controversial groups on here that have a way of stirring deep emotions on both sides of the debate, and both of us have done at least one post that caused a shitstorm frenzy. Mildly humorous if you think about it, and sure makes things on here interesting...
Am I the only one that is suspicious of people that don’t have at least one clear picture of ...
Shelton comments on Aug 17, 2018:
If they are here for dating I would wonder why they don't have a photo. If they are here for community only then it isn't really important what they look like. I have actually communicated with a few on here for a long time and don't have a clue what they look like, yet I enjoy their input and ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 18, 2018:
I agree, and I'm one of them who has interacted with you for some time now and I've yet to post any photos of myself on here. I know that may make some suspicious, but some go that route for security reasons, and I am only here for community. Some of my views run opposite of the majority on this site, and I've received spam and hate messages due to that, which made me think twice about posting any photos of myself.
What decade is your favorite music from?
Silver1wun comments on Aug 18, 2018:
I LOVE the music that took th world by storm during the 1920's and 1930's!
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 18, 2018:
Good pick.
What decade is your favorite music from?
Ozman comments on Aug 18, 2018:
1984 to 1986 (although I have found myself listening to some 90s stuff lately)
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 18, 2018:
The 1980's rocked.
Vend O Gun. A gun control fanatic's nightmare.
Besalbub comments on Aug 18, 2018:
Not much of a selection .
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 18, 2018:
They need a bigger vending machine...
One thing that I really think is wrong and may sound silly at first, is giving gov't agencies cool ...
bigpawbullets comments on Aug 17, 2018:
So, it's an abreviation for who they are; "Immigration & Customs Enforcement". What would you call them?
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 17, 2018:
@MikeFlora Feel free to talk more about that if you want to, curiosity abounds...
One thing that I really think is wrong and may sound silly at first, is giving gov't agencies cool ...
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 17, 2018:
I can't stress this enough, ICE are not the bad guys, and names don't matter. I'm to a point where I just want to give up when it comes to the immigration debate, because once again people's emotions run high and critical thinking goes out the window. How do I explain to someone that ICE is ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 17, 2018:
@MikeFlora I applaud you then for taking a stand that goes against mainstream liberal left, as alot of them are for abolishing ICE, so I'm happy to hear you say that. The name part is a whole other story, though I understand your point and said point may have some validity to it...
One thing that I really think is wrong and may sound silly at first, is giving gov't agencies cool ...
bigpawbullets comments on Aug 17, 2018:
So, it's an abreviation for who they are; "Immigration & Customs Enforcement". What would you call them?
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 17, 2018:
@MikeFlora Sounds like you don't trust government agencies alot, Mike. You sound like a conservative there, as most of us conservatives believe in smaller government and more power to the people, and when I say you sound like a conservative I mean that in a good way.
It's so much better is other industrialized countries than it is in the US!
buck1977 comments on Aug 12, 2018:
liberals want to be enslaved by the government...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 17, 2018:
Want? Me thinks most of them already are and have been for some time now...
I've found a solution!
SkotlandSkye comments on Aug 12, 2018:
there are many in CA that might think that's a real idea.... and that's what's scary.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 17, 2018:
@LEPeff You're not the only one who is glad to live in Pennsylvania...
One thing that I really think is wrong and may sound silly at first, is giving gov't agencies cool ...
bigpawbullets comments on Aug 17, 2018:
So, it's an abreviation for who they are; "Immigration & Customs Enforcement". What would you call them?
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 17, 2018:
@bigpawbullets It's a sad day in our country when those on the left get worked up over a name and not focus more on the good that said group does. I don't think anyone set out to purposely give ICE a "cool" name as some would suggest, no more than how the CIA or FBI got their names.
As good of an idea as this is, I somehow get the feeling this group (as with some other groups on ...
bigpawbullets comments on Aug 17, 2018:
Your comments are true of any group, anywhere. The outcome here will be much like that of the opposing views of our two gun groups.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 17, 2018:
Should be interesting...
@Mikeflora mentioned recently that people like @spiketalon, @omen6actual & myself should just "admit...
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora I saw the last post you did in your (well used to be yours anyway) group. Rather odd a group with 200+ members hadn't posted anything for days...maybe they are giving up? I could...I could do a post in your group if you wanted me to, if you wanted some action in your group. I somehow get...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 16, 2018:
@MikeFlora @bigpawbullets Thought these were worth sharing. Don't believe everything the television tells you to Mike. Freethinkers question everything.
Glad I never used Twitter or Farcebook or any other of the popular social media platforms.
azzow2 comments on Aug 16, 2018:
I never agree to protest however if most of the viewing public just turned the feed off for a day or two. The loss of revenue would make their bean counters think about the consequences.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 16, 2018:
Can't say I think the protest will help much either, but what you suggested would be a good idea.
The gun control fanatics and the sand people have quite a alot in common...
bigpawbullets comments on Aug 16, 2018:
I don't believe any of them understand or employ the dicipline of logic.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 16, 2018:
@educatedredneck By the way, I know the post you were referring to from the gun control group, and another post from Mike stating there is no such thing as fake news. After bringing up and discussing an obviously fake news story carried by CNN in regards to the WalkAway movement, Mike refused to take anything I said into consideration and just brushed me off when I told him CNN lied and continues to do so. Additionally, treating all people with respect and decency and the immigration debate are two different areas that he attempted to mix, which is a whole other topic for discussion another time perhaps...
The gun control fanatics and the sand people have quite a alot in common...
educatedredneck comments on Aug 16, 2018:
Mike posted about gun manufacturers choosing to stop making some weapons. I hope they keep pursuing those types of goals. The great thing is several openly call for a total gun ban, nobody criticizes that attitude but they want us to believe nobody will ever come for guns. I still want ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 16, 2018:
Not gonna happen none too soon, and at that point I think folks would make their own weapons, kind of like some do now.
To go along with Trajan61's last post- [americanlookout.com]
bigpawbullets comments on Aug 16, 2018:
And, again!!
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 16, 2018:
Isn't it fun listening to liberals screaming over politics?
The radical governor of New York Andrew Cuomo is making an illegal attempt to put companies out of ...
EMC2 comments on Aug 15, 2018:
I fully disagree, The NRA was washing money from Russia and feeding the Trump campaign. They do not deserve the right to have a credit card being serviced, There are many well intended people in the NRA and that is not even up for debate, However the crusade to ignore a ban on assault weapons ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 15, 2018:
@Omen6Actual No worries... another lib progressive troll that just got himself banned from this group...
How do the governments of the world address the fact that there are to many people on this planet?
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 12, 2018:
See, times like this I get confused over leftist ideaology. On one hand you are upset that medical services are not available to everyone (which isn't true and modern medicine is what's keeping people alive longer), and yet at the same time complain the world is over populated. Given how big this ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 15, 2018:
@Marine Please keep in mind I am not a Republican as I disagree with quite a few of their stances, abortion being one of them, what choices women make are none of my business and thus they should be free to live their lives the way they wish. When it comes to letting people die and in particular the ill, I think nature should be allowed to take its course. Think about this one for a moment- the far left cries over world population and one would rationally think that if we just allow nature to take care of the terminally ill (let people die naturally) that could only help with the population concern, but the left wants to have it both ways by complaining about population overgrowth and keeping ill people alive longer and that does not make any sense to me whatsoever. Again I say both political sides are and continue to be wrong in their approach on the issues that affect our lives. I'm doing okay, hope all has been good for you lately. I wish I had more time to be on here, but life has been keeping me busy. I'm still around though. You remember the guy on here who went by the name NotConvinced? He wanted me to say hi to you, and he's doing okay as well. Later Marine, take care.
Trump is destroying the country and yet he has these people cheering him on.
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 5, 2018:
My life has gotten better since Trump took office. I no longer have that damn unconstitutional healthcare mandate to worry about anymore. The economy is gradually getting better. The interest rates have gone up a bit and will do some more by year end which means I'm making more money on my ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 15, 2018:
@Marine The problem there lies in the fact that people have accepted and gotten used to what you mentioned in the first part of your comment. As free citizens we should not ever be forced to get insurance for anything if we do not want it. Also, you are attempting to mix what is a privilege and what is a service, driving a car/getting a license is not a service whereas healthcare is. Forcing people to get anything in what's supposed to be a free country reminds me too much of communism. Regarding the last part of your comment, keep in mind that not everyone who paid for health insurance will have an emergency as you described. Making otherwise healthy people pay for a service that they do not want or even need is plain wrong, and only serves to fund those who may have made poor lifestyle choices and thus require medical attention for such.

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