Faith defined.

WilliamFleming comments on Nov 16, 2019:

Actually we all operate on some degree of faith. There is usually at least some evidence either way and we make a gut decision. Evidence and reason are fine, but they will not tell you the absolute truth. Truth is not absolute.

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 16, 2019:

"Actually we all operate on some degree of faith." Er.... No. Faith is a pernicious lie and the excuse people with no evidence use instead.

DARVO Deny Attack Reverse Victim Offender DARVO refers to a reaction perpetrators of wrong...

LenHazell53 comments on Nov 15, 2019:

These days known as Trumpery or doing a Trump

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 15, 2019:

@Marionville Yup same here

“You and me are real people, operating in a real world.

LenHazell53 comments on Nov 15, 2019:

This quote is so often taken out of context it is unbelievable, Especially the last sentence. Sartre himself was finally required to give a public lecture in 1945 to point out that he was not advocating for a license to do any thing than everything and was not promoting anarchism. See ...

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 15, 2019:

@Archeus_Lore More than a few unfortunately, same thing happens with many philosophers, especially Nietzsche

Anybody else over retrograde?

LenHazell53 comments on Nov 14, 2019:

Are you talking about Mercury retrogrades?

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 15, 2019:

@Zenpyrat I see, okay thanks for answering

Following on from FGM and Circumcision is the barbaric practice of lesbians emasculating their sons ...

LenHazell53 comments on Nov 13, 2019:

"Is There Anything More Evil Than LGBTQP Pride?" Are you fucking kidding me????!!!! Well of course two deranged lesbians mutilate and kill their son so OF COURSE ALL LGBTQ people are EEEEEVVVVILLLLLLLL. Just like that endless parade of straight couple who beat, starved, tortured and killed ...

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 14, 2019:

@FrayedBear Well said Actually I was paraphrasing Meatloaf You'll never find your gold on a sandy beach You'll never drill for oil on a city street I know you're looking for a ruby in a mountain of rocks But there ain't no Coup de Ville hiding at the bottom Of a Cracker Jack box "Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad"

Following on from FGM and Circumcision is the barbaric practice of lesbians emasculating their sons ...

LenHazell53 comments on Nov 13, 2019:

"Is There Anything More Evil Than LGBTQP Pride?" Are you fucking kidding me????!!!! Well of course two deranged lesbians mutilate and kill their son so OF COURSE ALL LGBTQ people are EEEEEVVVVILLLLLLLL. Just like that endless parade of straight couple who beat, starved, tortured and killed ...

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 14, 2019:

@FrayedBear True, news like entertainment has become agenda driven, biased to the wonts and expediency of the writer. In an age when information is readily available at the literal fingertips of every one, truth has become something that has to be mined like a jewel in a mountain of excrement.

NOISOME.

Cutiebeauty comments on Nov 14, 2019:

So, did noisy once mean stinky lol

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 14, 2019:

Noisy comes from the old Latin word "nausea" meaning to make another person feel sick by sensory torture, poisoning the senses either by inflicting pain, loud sounds, bright lights, putrid tastes, bad smells or dizziness. Again in this case the similarity between Noisome and Noisy is simply coincidental owing to Latin and Greek having a lot of the same words but with totally different meanings.

What do you all think about reincarnation?

LenHazell53 comments on Nov 9, 2019:

Genetic memory is a possibility, as is quantum entanglement of two beings over time and space. But since I do not believe in souls, reincarnation in the traditional sense is a none starter for me.

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 13, 2019:

@magnoliarosada What are you going on about? Parnia's paper is about a possible explanation for near death experiences, it has nothing to do with "the weight of the soul" I'm sorry I have nothing more to say to you.

What do you all think about reincarnation?

LenHazell53 comments on Nov 9, 2019:

Genetic memory is a possibility, as is quantum entanglement of two beings over time and space. But since I do not believe in souls, reincarnation in the traditional sense is a none starter for me.

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 13, 2019:

@magnoliarosada Oh for goodness sake ¨The story of God¨ is not a documentary it is a sensationalist series comparable with "hunting Hitler" with which it shares producers and writers. It is only a passing mention in episode one (2016) that you refer to and it IS talking about the MacDougall experiments.

What do you all think about reincarnation?

LenHazell53 comments on Nov 9, 2019:

Genetic memory is a possibility, as is quantum entanglement of two beings over time and space. But since I do not believe in souls, reincarnation in the traditional sense is a none starter for me.

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 13, 2019:

@magnoliarosada You are referring to the March 1907 MacDougall’s experiments as published in The New York Times and the medical journal American Medicine, which even at the time concluded that of six tests, two had to be discarded (because there was no drop in weight), one showed an immediate drop in weight (and nothing more), two showed an immediate drop in weight which increased with the passage of time, and one showed an immediate drop in weight which reversed itself but later recurred. Since the equipment used was basically a large kitchen scale the alteration in weight is largely thought to simple have been death convulsions and the shifting of the subject. The experiments were debunked at the time and have never been taken seriously by anyone except the the fundamentalist churches. The experiments are most famous because they were used as major the plot point for the 1967 film "Frankenstein Created Woman"

Really interesting - on how the scriptures are mis-read in modern times: [nytimes.com]

LenHazell53 comments on Nov 12, 2019:

It is irrelevant really, since they are all ancient writings recording oral traditions that where the rantings for the most part of mentally disturbed ignorant bronze age desert dwellers. What matters now is that the ignorant and gullible are still open to the influence of the unscrupulous who ...

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 12, 2019:

@Allamanda The church of England is a very weird entity, ranging from so called "High Church" who are to all intents and purposes Roman Catholics through to vicars who openly profess to be atheists but still see value in the church as a social institution. Famously the Bishop of York once caused a scandal by outrightly declaring the virgin birth to be a myth, the resurrection to have probably been a trick and casting doubt on the divinity of christ, yet at the same time taking his seat in the house of Lords and towing the church line on law making. However since the C of E was created so a King of England could divorce his wife and tell the pope to go and get stuffed it is hardly surprising that it is such a blasphemous organisation in the eyes of most other christian churches.

What do you all think about reincarnation?

LenHazell53 comments on Nov 9, 2019:

Genetic memory is a possibility, as is quantum entanglement of two beings over time and space. But since I do not believe in souls, reincarnation in the traditional sense is a none starter for me.

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 12, 2019:

@magnoliarosada we cannot presuppose the existence of a "soul" since there is no evidence for such an entity, any more than there is for a gods, ghosts and any other supernatural being.

If god is willing to condemn the devil what makes people think god wouldn't do it to them?

Fernapple comments on Nov 11, 2019:

One day Winnie the Pooh's Eeyore lost his tail, which dropped off fell in the water and floated away. If that could happen to Eeyore what makes human beings think that could not happen to them ?

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 11, 2019:

If my tail dropped off having Christopher Robin nail it back on with a hammer and a tack is not the sort of help I would want.

If humans are allowed to repent then why can't Lucifer?

ZantiMisfit comments on Nov 11, 2019:

I asked this same question to my professor when we were covering *Paradise Lost*. The answer, according to Milton anyway, is that Lucifer and his followers were Self-Corrupted as opposed to Adam and Eve who were tempted by someone else.

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 11, 2019:

Milton's Satan is in my opinion quite an heroic character ***better to reign in hell than to serve in Heaven*** is a sentiment I can easily sympathise with.

Oh, yes. I've done the chair thing many times!

LenHazell53 comments on Nov 10, 2019:

"Every member a janitor" remember that shit after they fired all the cleaners

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 11, 2019:

@BestWithoutGods Around 2009 the church fired the entire maintenance and Janitorial staff and instead sent this letter to all priesthood leaders Dear Priesthood Leaders, As “member involvement” in cleaning meetinghouses of the Church continues to expand, the paid custodial force has continued to dwindle. Per direction from the Presiding Bishop, we have reached the time to fully engage church membership in the ongoing weekly cleaning of meetinghouses. The following statements provide the support required to implement this change in policy. “We are asking Church members to assume a greater responsibility for cleaning and caring for Church meetinghouses.” --Gordon B. Hinckley “Members of the Church are invited to participate in the cleaning of their buildings in such a way that, by their sacrifiece, they will come to honor and resepect and love those beautiful houses of worship” --Bishop H. David burton Accordingly, the following changes are to be implemented: -The ongoing day-to-day cleaning of the meetinghouses will now be the responsibility of members instead of paid custodians. -The Church will no longer pay employees or contractors to perform day to day meetninghouse cleaning -Paid meetinghouse custodian positions will be eliminated globally, to be accomplished via a voluntary reduction in force -The FM Group will continue to provide adequate cleaning supplies to the members, allowing them to perform their cleaning duties -Clean-up of buildings will now be coordinated through Stake and Ward Physical Facilities Representatives -The FM Group will continue to perform “deep cleaning” activities not considered to be day to day or weekly cleaning, such as carpet cleaning This change in policy will be effective July 1, 2010. Thank you so much for your support It is apleasure to work with all of you. STAKE PRESIDENCY TEMPLATE LETTER ---------------------------------------- Dear Stake Members, For several years now, members of the church have been sharing the responsibility of keeping our buildings clean along with professional church maintenance employees. We feel it has been a good experience as we have worked together to keep our houses of worship clean and respectable. The church has recently made the decision that ALL the cleaning responsibilities will now be done by members of the church. This will free up a significant amount of money to help those in need and will give church members additional opportunities to serve. Specifically this will mean complete cleaning of the restrooms, chapel, gymnasium and periodic deep cleaning assignments. To facilitate this, each building will have laminated cards that will specifically explain each of the cleaning assignments to be completed on Saturday. This work will require a minimum of 20...

Oh, yes. I've done the chair thing many times!

LenHazell53 comments on Nov 10, 2019:

"Every member a janitor" remember that shit after they fired all the cleaners

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 10, 2019:

@RussRAB I was out too, but I knew people still in, who simply said no when told by the bishop they had been called by god to personally clean the church toilets etc. As usual all the work fell on the shoulders of a few willing horses hoping to scrub and dust their way in to the celestial kingdom.

[aeon.

LenHazell53 comments on Nov 9, 2019:

So the almighty, all powerful and all loving god decided that he made a mistake in giving boys foreskins and girls clitorides (yes that is the plural believe it or not) and rather than stop children being born with them orders the "faithful" to start cutting bits off and sewing up their infants. ...

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 10, 2019:

@FrayedBear I was unaware of that skin grafting technique, thanks for the information.

So this might be for Brits only but would love a general opinion.

LenHazell53 comments on Nov 6, 2019:

Bonfire night was instituted much as Christmas was to replace a pagan festival. In the case of Christmas it was Yuletide, in the case of Bonfire night it was Samhain. Though Samhain was overlaid with All Hallows eve, much to the anger of the church the Bonfires and burning of the wicker man that ...

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 10, 2019:

@Dragoria It is reasonable for their use one night a year, what I object to is their use from Halloween night to the weekend following nov.5th night after night of noise and the police refuse to do anything about it.

What do you all think about reincarnation?

rsabbatini comments on Nov 9, 2019:

There are some stories thar are scaring in terms of coincidences, but I think that they are all fabricated, fiction.

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 10, 2019:

Cryptomnesia has more than once proven to be the answer to surprisingly detailed reincarnation experiences.

What do you all think about reincarnation?

LenHazell53 comments on Nov 9, 2019:

Genetic memory is a possibility, as is quantum entanglement of two beings over time and space. But since I do not believe in souls, reincarnation in the traditional sense is a none starter for me.

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 10, 2019:

@Auty89 Really? The you cannot prove it does NOT exist therefore it does argument ? All macro objects are made up of quantum level objects that can be entangled, genetic memory does exist as inborn instincts in humans and animals therefore at higher levels it is at least possible through as yet is still untested as far as I know My post simply postulated alternatives that are possible in the light of modern physics over the transmigration of "souls" a postulation that first requires the establishment of the existence of a none material incorporeal object the soul itself. Provide proof that there is such a thing as a soul and I will consider the possibility.

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EdEarl comments on Nov 9, 2019:

Without context, this quote was challenging to understand, because of ambiguity. How not well, and what impossible loss. However, those ambiguities don't matter. "Refusing to pretend" shows integrity.

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 9, 2019:

I agree, I was thinking exactly the same things

Has anyone got any ideas?

LenHazell53 comments on Nov 8, 2019:

Contact the Freedom From Religion Foundation https://ffrf.org/ they can advise you, or join Atheist Republic https://www.atheistrepublic.com/ for organisations in your area.

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 9, 2019:

@KICKN Billionaires (and their accountants) love churches, he potential for tax avoidance by donating to and dealing with tax exempt organisations like churches is how many of them became billionaires in the first place. The Rothschilds and the Rockafellas both have massive stakes in the LDS and use it to xfer money tax free from one to the other all the time, allowing the Mormons to cream off a percentage of the cash going both ways. You will find no Billionaire willing to take a stand against their own "god give" tax haven.

Has anyone got any ideas?

LenHazell53 comments on Nov 8, 2019:

Contact the Freedom From Religion Foundation https://ffrf.org/ they can advise you, or join Atheist Republic https://www.atheistrepublic.com/ for organisations in your area.

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 9, 2019:

@KICKN Quite the opposite, the only time you do hear about them on the news is to disparage them and others because so many of the media execs are so in the pockets of big religion or are owned by it at least in part. These atheist entities have a large IRL and internet presence but almost none in the MSM. When Atheist experience became a big hit on public access television in Texas, a coalition of churches including the Mormons and evangelicals booked up every slot for seven years in advance to shut them down. The show went internet exclusive and still has huge national & international ratings, (almost twenty years now) but is constantly demonitised and false flagged on You Tube so allows mirroring by other users to keep getting the message out.

I believe "Central New Jersey" exists, more that any deity exists. Can anyone prove me wrong?

WilliamFleming comments on Nov 8, 2019:

“Central New Jersey” and “any deity” are both nothing but fluffy mind stuff. The concept of existence is just meaningless chatter anyway.

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 8, 2019:

@WilliamFleming If you can smell it, taste it, feel it, see it and hear it for all intents and purposes it is real and interacts with other real things. A illusion by definition is not real, does not interact with reality and is the result of either interference with the body or a fault in the body. You can claim your existence as a material entity is an illusion all you please, but very the very nature of the claim you cannot prove his assertion, since all the available perceived evidence proves you do exist as part of existence as a whole. I can only conclude therefore that you are positing some Aristotelian notion of an essential being that is actually the real you trapped within the physical you, from which it is both separate and connected, of which it both simultaneously has control and yet is hostage to and which though perceiving reality is not a part of it. In the words of Bertrand Russell Whatever is, is Nothing can both be and not be Everything must either be or not be Leaving you with the choice of either being completely wrong, or of being the only thing that does actually exist hallucinating everything else to stop yourself from going mad of boredom. Apply Occam's razor which is more likely?

I believe "Central New Jersey" exists, more that any deity exists. Can anyone prove me wrong?

WilliamFleming comments on Nov 8, 2019:

“Central New Jersey” and “any deity” are both nothing but fluffy mind stuff. The concept of existence is just meaningless chatter anyway.

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 8, 2019:

@WilliamFleming And yet if I were to warn you a brick was about to fall on your head, would you move or deny its existence until it caved in you skull?

Anyone see the movie Unplanned?

Barnie2years comments on Nov 7, 2019:

Where are the movies of real kids living in junk piles, those who are beaten and starved, because their parents didn’t want them? Where are the videos of women dying due to complications during pregnancy and term still births? Where are all the anti abortion people when the children are abandoned ...

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 7, 2019:

Good question

When a religious person says I’ll pray for you.

Sticks48 comments on Nov 6, 2019:

I don't have a problem with it. Their intentions are good and it doesn't hurt me in the slightest.

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 7, 2019:

@Sticks48 I understand where you are coming from, and why. Doesn't work for me though, I value truth too much.

When a religious person says I’ll pray for you.

Sticks48 comments on Nov 6, 2019:

I don't have a problem with it. Their intentions are good and it doesn't hurt me in the slightest.

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 7, 2019:

@Sticks48 from their point of view they are not wishing you the best, there are trying to do their best to save you from deserving the worst. I know I am a glass half empty sort of guy, but having been deluded by religion for many years and then escaped, I find the idea of deluding myself any further abominable, and so choose point out the toad of truth squatting the stinking swamp of Christian hypocrisy. (apologies to sheldon Cooper for mangling his metaphor)

taximeter cabriolet taks•IM•it•er CAB•ree•oh•lay Where the words "taxi" and "cab" ...

LenHazell53 comments on Nov 7, 2019:

Sorry but the writer of the link is totally wrong and has mislead you. Taxa does not mean tax or charge it means an arrangement of a system of organization hence Taxidermy (an Arrangement of skin) taxonomy (arrangement of names) Taxation (arrangement of payments) A "cabi stercoris" was a roman ...

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 7, 2019:

@altschmerz My Dad for a while ran a vintage London Taxi Cab hire business for weddings etc I had / was asked to research and write all his publicity copy , hence my head being full of trivia about Taxis. This was one of his 1958 Beardmore cabs done up for a wedding edited

GIMCRACK.

HippieChick58 comments on Nov 7, 2019:

I remember my grandmother using that word for junk coming into the US from Asian countries when I was a kid. Cheap, gaudy dust catchers.

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 7, 2019:

Same here

When a religious person says I’ll pray for you.

Geoffrey51 comments on Nov 6, 2019:

Very happy that they feel moved enough to do what they consider to be a kindly act.

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 7, 2019:

The Kindly act of asking their loving good NOT to send me to a pit of eternal fire, which they think I deserve for not loving the bastard who is threatening to send me there?

When a religious person says I’ll pray for you.

BitFlipper comments on Nov 6, 2019:

It makes a difference if the person is sincere.

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 7, 2019:

No it doesn't, it just means they are so completely programmed by their death cult that they really do think you are both hellbound and hellworthy. It just means they are sincerely warped.

When a religious person says I’ll pray for you.

Sticks48 comments on Nov 6, 2019:

I don't have a problem with it. Their intentions are good and it doesn't hurt me in the slightest.

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 7, 2019:

What do you mean their intentions are good? They are praying for their god to intervene in your own free will so that he will not HAVE to burn you for all eternity in hell for the sin of eating fruit, committed by a distant and non existent ancestor. A fate they believe you fully deserve because to fail to kowtow to a tyrannical monster who sacrificed himself to himself to create a loophole in a law he made. That they "love" and worship out of sheer terror this monster who will do the same to them give half a chance leads them to think that your being subject to involuntary brainwashing is your only hope for escaping eternal torture for the crime of thinking for yourself. How is that in any way a ***"Good Intention"?***

FORNENT or FORNENST.

LenHazell53 comments on Nov 6, 2019:

The Scots had some beautiful names for directions Deosil and Widdershins for circling right and left respectively come to mind

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 6, 2019:

@WonderWartHog99 Guacamole, chocolate and Llama

FORNENT or FORNENST.

Cutiebeauty comments on Nov 6, 2019:

A fornent is a tiny little creature that lives in your computer and causes malfunctions on your keyboard.. Have you heard of that?

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 6, 2019:

@Cutiebeauty Sorry I just love that story

FORNENT or FORNENST.

Cutiebeauty comments on Nov 6, 2019:

A fornent is a tiny little creature that lives in your computer and causes malfunctions on your keyboard.. Have you heard of that?

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 6, 2019:

@Cutiebeauty That is a Fornit **"Fornit some fornus"** as Stephen King put it in "The Ballad of the Flexible Bullet" A pixie like creature the Fornit inspires writers with magical fornus a powerful dust that at the cost of their sanity will allow any writer access to the greatest stories never yet written. The Fornits used to like to live in typewriters but hate electricity, so now act as computer gremlins to try and drive writers back to pen and paper or manual typewrites. The word Fornit comes from the plural of the old frankish Fornir "To supply"

Man made religions, HOWEVER man did NOT make the Universe!!!

LenHazell53 comments on Nov 5, 2019:

And your point is?

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 5, 2019:

@FlyingEagle1952 No one made it, existence is the natural state of affairs, the current structure of the universe is the result of huge amounts of time and the ability of life at this moment to perceive it, which also answers the why are we here part of the question if quantum physics is to be believed nothing exists outside of phase space until it is measured and observed hence the necessity of life to carry out that function of measuring and observing.

Man made religions, HOWEVER man did NOT make the Universe!!!

JeffMesser comments on Nov 5, 2019:

::buzzer sound:: the entire universe that you think exists around you is actually all constructed inside your head.

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 5, 2019:

The brain's interpretation of date received via the senses?

Workplace memos from the boss from Hell

Flowerwall comments on Nov 5, 2019:

This has got to be the best memo ever written, "“Do not speak to me when you see me,” Davis, then-owner of Houston-based Tiger Oil, wrote in one of the memos. “If I want to...speak to you, I will do so. I want to save my throat.”

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 5, 2019:

@Flowerwall I can only assume he meant for people shut up when he was talking but succumbed to a Freudian slip

Workplace memos from the boss from Hell

oldFloyd comments on Nov 5, 2019:

I can only imagine what was going on to have triggered that kind of response. 🤔😒

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 5, 2019:

Not a lot, back in the 70's bosses thought themselves on a level with Greek gods, if they were not tossing lightening bolts they were trying to impregnate the women.

Workplace memos from the boss from Hell

DGJ0114 comments on Nov 5, 2019:

LOL 😁 ☺️🤭! It's funny to an outsider but I bet his employees didn't think this stuff was funny...

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 5, 2019:

Well some one obviously thought it important enough or funny enough to smuggle out a xerox copy lol

Workplace memos from the boss from Hell

Flowerwall comments on Nov 5, 2019:

This has got to be the best memo ever written, "“Do not speak to me when you see me,” Davis, then-owner of Houston-based Tiger Oil, wrote in one of the memos. “If I want to...speak to you, I will do so. I want to save my throat.”

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 5, 2019:

Reminds me of one of my bosses who when interrupted in the middle of a rant, screamed at the whole office "Shut the fuck up when you speak to me!"

EXCRESCENCE.

LenHazell53 comments on Nov 5, 2019:

Reminds me the line from "Carry on Henry" Thomas Moore: You must not upset yourself Majesty or else you will again break out in poisonous excrescences Cardinal Wolsey: that's furuncles and Boils Thomas Moore: I know what I am talking about!

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 5, 2019:

@Marionville it was why a whole family could watch a Carry on.. to the kids it was just funny words, to the adults it was filthy but only if they know the naughtiness anyway and for those who didn't there was plenty of simple slapstick and toilet humour. Even Shakespeare thought fart jokes were funny

EXCRESCENCE.

LenHazell53 comments on Nov 5, 2019:

Reminds me the line from "Carry on Henry" Thomas Moore: You must not upset yourself Majesty or else you will again break out in poisonous excrescences Cardinal Wolsey: that's furuncles and Boils Thomas Moore: I know what I am talking about!

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 5, 2019:

@Marionville Talbot Rothwell was the first true master of bad taste Britcom

Fox's 'Family Guy' Calls Religious Believers 'Stupid People,' 'Idiots'

WilliamFleming comments on Nov 4, 2019:

Unable to access the site. Some of the worlds most creative and intelligent people down through history have been deeply religious. Even today about half of US scientists believe in some sort of God concept. Such arrogant and domineering language accomplishes nothing. What is stupid is to ...

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 5, 2019:

@WilliamFleming "Would you like to be on the receiving end of that?" Have been many times, but the difference is I can make a cogent argument for why that assessment is incorrect Christards can just gasp, clutch their pearls and tell me I am going to Hell. Basically accusations of idiocy only offend idiots.

Commentary: Recall how America built a transcontinental railroad in 6 years?

LenHazell53 comments on Nov 4, 2019:

Great things can always be achieved when fueled by the desperation of the poor and starving. I read some where once that the Great Wall of China was built at a cost of up to three thousand lives per mile and that the corpses were used a building materials. The empire state building cost the lives ...

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 4, 2019:

@altschmerz It is unfortunate that when people lament the passing of the old work ethic, they are longing for a return to a two tier society where the lives of the masses are worth less than the lives of the "People" ie the rich. The restrictive regulation they want removed from being a hindrance to progress are the very regulations that prevent the devaluation of the working people to dispensable commodities. Nothing inspires a work ethic like a hungry belly and starving children. No one should be allowed to use such a perversion of pragmatism as a management technique for greater productivity and profit.

I do not disagree. That's not uncommon... Why do people use double negatives in common speech?

LenHazell53 comments on Nov 3, 2019:

Technically the examples you have given are not actual double negatives they are journalistic/political equivocations "I do not disagree." does not mean "I agree" it is a weasel word way of say "I neither agree nor disagree," "That's not uncommon" does not mean "That is common" it is a way of ...

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 4, 2019:

@Cutiebeauty I agree absolutely, they are technically double negatives, but employed in such a way as to be deceitful, what in journalist terms are called weasel words, because the appear to confine themselves in a tunnel of truth, but actually leave enough wriggle room to turn about and bite off your nose. The political pundit and the politicians themselves love these sort of phrased comments because depending on the out come they can always agree with the victor and use the "No, I never said that" against detractors.

Here's something interesting.

Atheist3 comments on Nov 3, 2019:

Every culture develops their own religion, aka mythology. Monotheism is an egocentric development that a particular tribal god is the only god. Why? Bragging rights!

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 3, 2019:

love it

Here's something interesting.

LenHazell53 comments on Nov 3, 2019:

Monotheism tends to emerge firstly as a unifying force, polytheist societies tend to be pretty tolerant of one another the Romans for instance believed that the Greek gods were the same gods as their own but with local names, the Egyptians would use several names for the same god depending on what ...

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 3, 2019:

@Haemish1 You maybe correct but both date from the second millenium BCE and early Zoroastrians followed the usual path of polytheism to monotheism. It is possible the influence was inverted, thanks for the clarification.

FUNGIBLE--able to replace or be replaced by another identical item. Mutually interchangable

LenHazell53 comments on Nov 3, 2019:

From *fungi* Latin meaning either to enjoy or to serve, also the root word of Function and Fun

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 3, 2019:

@altschmerz Fungus come from the Greek sphongos meaning Mushroom or sponge ( the greeks thought sponges were mushrooms that grew in the sea. English has so many root languages that most English words have at least two completely unconnected meanings.

Most people on here are atheists and that's cool and all but who on here is truly agnostic.

richiegtt comments on Nov 2, 2019:

I would not put a label on this creator who may not have been immortal and possibly has not existed for who knows how long .I am open minded and believe anything is possible .

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 2, 2019:

@richiegtt You said "I am open minded and believe anything is possible ." that is what I was I was addressing. Neither you nor I mentioned agnosticism or atheism in either of our posts. However if "something that can not be proven." exists how can you possibly know?

I always love how ultra religious people will quote Leviticus and claim that the bible is gods word.

Marionville comments on Nov 2, 2019:

I think it’s time we stopped allowing them to quote and give credence to anything from this work of fiction. I just shut down all biblical references from anyone by saying “no point in quoting scripture at me because it only makes sense if you actually believe it...I don’t, preferring ...

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 2, 2019:

I have quoted back Shakespeare, Dickens, Hitler, Chairman Mao, Bertrand Russell, Joseph Smith and Mr Spock at Christians, usually to delighted cries of "You see, even you cannot do better than the Bible" or some such nonsense.

Most people on here are atheists and that's cool and all but who on here is truly agnostic.

richiegtt comments on Nov 2, 2019:

I would not put a label on this creator who may not have been immortal and possibly has not existed for who knows how long .I am open minded and believe anything is possible .

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 2, 2019:

If anything is possible show me a circle with four 90% angles in its circumference.

Most people on here are atheists and that's cool and all but who on here is truly agnostic.

jniece comments on Nov 2, 2019:

Why do you think this?

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 2, 2019:

good question, to be quickly followed with why think this?

BOWDLERISE.

WonderWartHog99 comments on Nov 2, 2019:

## To bowdlerise Shakespeare, all one need do is remove the footnotes. It got to me that Shaggy of *Scobby Do Where are you* was using a Shakespearian curse that meant "By the wrath of God" once I'd taken a college level course on Shakespeare. Hey, it was in the footnotes.

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 2, 2019:

Happy 50th Birthday for last September 13th Scooby.

As an atheist how do you respond to “i’ll pray for you.”?, I normally just smile and nod.

RustBucket1967VW comments on Nov 1, 2019:

As I am agnostic and 99% sure there is no God, I say "Thank you" and think for that 1%, yeah, I'll need it if I'm wrong! :=)

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 2, 2019:

That is basically Pascal's wager, perhaps the worst apologetics argument ever conceived.

As an atheist how do you respond to “i’ll pray for you.”?, I normally just smile and nod.

Norman347 comments on Nov 1, 2019:

Why would you do otherwise? They aren't do you any harm by saying or doing that. Good for you for being a civil adult.

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 2, 2019:

they may not be doing any harm, but they are saying that they want you to change because if you don't you "deserve to burn in hell for all eternity" and they either agree with that sentiment or are choosing to to worship the monster who instituted that rule. Personally I find that insulting

As an atheist how do you respond to “i’ll pray for you.”?, I normally just smile and nod.

RobbieRedjay comments on Nov 1, 2019:

I just tell them, thx whatever floats your boat

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 2, 2019:

or Ark?

As an atheist how do you respond to “i’ll pray for you.”?, I normally just smile and nod.

Jolanta comments on Nov 2, 2019:

I say, It is not helping you must make a better effort.

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 2, 2019:

five out of ten must try harder lol😉👍

As an atheist how do you respond to “i’ll pray for you.”?, I normally just smile and nod.

soontobedelete comments on Nov 2, 2019:

I've only had my piece of shit mom say that. I just ignore it.

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 2, 2019:

Sounds like your mother and my late mother would have got along just fine

As an atheist how do you respond to “i’ll pray for you.”?, I normally just smile and nod.

phantasm777 comments on Nov 2, 2019:

I run into the problem with - god bless you, when i or someone sneezes. i am not saying it, and i cannot thank them for it if i do not believe. it gets so that when i sneeze or someone else does, i wanna run away from the situation. :P people get offended if you do not bless them after a ...

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 2, 2019:

I just say "Gesundheit" most of the idiots think it is german for god bless, it actually just means "good health"

What is non-religious but spiritual?

LenHazell53 comments on Nov 1, 2019:

A boat load of old cobblers, magical thinking and the lack of courage in your own convictions. **non-religious but spiritual** It is a phrase used by those who are fed up of believing in a twisted god, but are too frightened of going to hell to let go completely. You might as well say ***"I ...

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 1, 2019:

@Marcie1974 what is to be frightened of? This not the middle ages we don't burn heretics and atheists anymore. and if your family are willing to dismiss you for being yourself, they are pretty rotten family, funny how it is almost always the loving christian family who reject the atheist and not the other way around.

What is non-religious but spiritual?

silverotter11 comments on Nov 1, 2019:

This is just my opinion/thoughts on the nature of spirituality. Spirituality has nothing to do with anything proposed by men writing up ways to control others through intimidation, fear or attempts to keep knowledge from the populace. Religion is something proposed by/created by man. Many ...

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 1, 2019:

@Marcie1974 "100 years ago being gay meant happy. Now it means being attracted to the same sex." Not true actually Gay meant carefree and colourful, it's homophone Gai/guy meant promiscuous as in a Gai/guy House (Brothel). However both of these became confused with the third meaning of gay as in the original names for the two genders given to infants in English Gay Girl ( F ) and Knave Girl ( M ) The word girl actually simply meaning child, gay in this sense simply meaning good or excellent and Knave meaning rascally. Male bashing was around even then in the world of Nannies and governesses Effeminate males came to be known as Gay Girls in the homosexual circles to simply mean good in the sense similar to calling an attractive person a babe that still exists today. After the Cleveland street scandal in the 1880s and and the prosecution of Oscar Wilde in the 1890s the illiterate press in the UK and the USA carried out a demonising campaign of "The Gays" within Victorian society this mistook Gais/guys meaning the promiscuous homosexual prostitutes of Cleveland street and placed a dark meaning on the word Gay (meaning excellent) while turning gai to the very masculine Guy (again confusing it with the existing name Gui ) So by the 1890s Girl came to mean simply young female child instead of just child and male children were given the term Boy which up until then had simply meant an apprentice or servant and was often a pet name for a son. Today contextually gay still means colourful or pretty, guy can and does in some circumstances mean a promiscuous man and gay has been reclaimed by the homosexual community to again mean a homsexual man, they are entirely different words that have fundamentally never changed their meanings only their spelling..

What is non-religious but spiritual?

silverotter11 comments on Nov 1, 2019:

This is just my opinion/thoughts on the nature of spirituality. Spirituality has nothing to do with anything proposed by men writing up ways to control others through intimidation, fear or attempts to keep knowledge from the populace. Religion is something proposed by/created by man. Many ...

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 1, 2019:

@Marcie1974 If they don't mean to say what a word means then they should not use it. English has more words in it's vocabulary than any other language, hence it can be used extremely precisely. It is not the fault of the interlocutor if they take a statement made as meaning what it actually means and not what the the ill educated other party thinks it might mean.

What is non-religious but spiritual?

Marcie1974 comments on Nov 1, 2019:

There was a very good discussion about this a month or so ago. Someone commented that after hiking up a mountain and sitting and enjoying the spectacular view of nature, they feel “spiritual” for lack of a better word. In awe of nature and how beautiful it is. We don’t really have a word for ...

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 1, 2019:

On behalf of this member of the "snarky agnostics and atheists" may I say there is a word for this feeling in fact there are several tranquility (or tranquillity) awstricken, wonderment, reverence, fascination, peaceability, sentimentality, love, aduration, enchantment and those are just of the top of my head and all those feelings or combinations of feeling have no connection to or connotations of "Spirituality" *snark snark*

GRAVAMEN--The essence or most serious part of a complaint or accusation

t1nick comments on Nov 1, 2019:

Same root word as the word gravitas: grav·i·tas /ˈɡravəˌtäs/ noun noun: gravitas dignity, seriousness, or solemnity of manner. "a post for which he has the expertise and the gravitas" Similar: dignity seriousness solemnity gravity loftiness grandeur decorum sobriety ...

LenHazell53 replies on Nov 1, 2019:

Also grave (serious) but not grave (burial place) which come from Graffan to dig a ditch, hence the Borisism "I'd rather be dead in a ditch"

As an Agnostic I am always interested when the sciemce takes a serious look at a spiritual topic.

LenHazell53 comments on Oct 31, 2019:

Ian Stevenson is about as credible as Arnall Bloxham (the Erich von Daniken of the Parapsycology world), if this article is to roll him out as their best evidence in the head line for the article I'm not going to waste my time reading it. You may as well refer to Ed and Lorraine Warren or Dixie ...

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 31, 2019:

@JeffMesser I just read chapter nine as you kindly provided and am pleased to see Swami Paramarthananda agrees completely with Swami Sivananda and so with me, thank you for proving me right.

As an Agnostic I am always interested when the sciemce takes a serious look at a spiritual topic.

LenHazell53 comments on Oct 31, 2019:

Ian Stevenson is about as credible as Arnall Bloxham (the Erich von Daniken of the Parapsycology world), if this article is to roll him out as their best evidence in the head line for the article I'm not going to waste my time reading it. You may as well refer to Ed and Lorraine Warren or Dixie ...

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 31, 2019:

@JeffMesser I am not telling you what Hindus do I am telling you what Swami Sivananda (among others) teaches, it would seem from your reaction that Christians are not the only religious people who don't know their own religion as well as they should. The effects you describe on and by the causal body is comparable to that which is contained in the books and manuals of theosophy compiled by A. E. Powell, a prominent theosophist and scribe to Madame Helena Blavatsky and not at all similar to the Karana sarira of Hindu doctrine.

As an Agnostic I am always interested when the sciemce takes a serious look at a spiritual topic.

K9Kohle789 comments on Oct 31, 2019:

I have never remembered a past life but believe in reincarnation. I actually don't think I was a human before or very few times. What is so puzzling about the article is mostly deformed children seem to be able to express their previous life and if they lost a leg, were born without one. That's ...

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 31, 2019:

@OldWiseAss 100% agree

As an Agnostic I am always interested when the sciemce takes a serious look at a spiritual topic.

LenHazell53 comments on Oct 31, 2019:

Ian Stevenson is about as credible as Arnall Bloxham (the Erich von Daniken of the Parapsycology world), if this article is to roll him out as their best evidence in the head line for the article I'm not going to waste my time reading it. You may as well refer to Ed and Lorraine Warren or Dixie ...

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 31, 2019:

@JeffMesser Hindu swami do not identify the "causal body" in any such way, however theosophists such as Besant and Leadbeater do. Are you sure you are not confusing you esoteric?

As an Agnostic I am always interested when the sciemce takes a serious look at a spiritual topic.

Geoffrey51 comments on Oct 31, 2019:

Looks like some interesting work. It’s churlish to say ‘not so’ when an eminent scientist has undertaken the study with a pretty huge sample. Regardless of our pontificating, we don’t know how the mind works other than the neurochemistry and neurophysiology of the brain. More going on...

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 31, 2019:

Ian Stevenson gave up any claims to eminence after the fiasco that was the Bridey Murphy/Morey Bernstein case, which though the most famous reincarnation investigation he was involved in was certainly not the only time he made a total fool of himself, being taken in by fraudsters, charlatans and publicity hunters.

As an Agnostic I am always interested when the sciemce takes a serious look at a spiritual topic.

dare2dream comments on Oct 31, 2019:

This article is evidence that even a professor of psychiatry can do pseudo science. His opinion is in contrast to the consensus of scientific community.

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 31, 2019:

@Storm1752 That reincarnation experience in the vast number of cases can with the minimum of research be proven to be Cryptomnesia, and or subconscious wish fulfilment.

As an Agnostic I am always interested when the sciemce takes a serious look at a spiritual topic.

jeshuey comments on Oct 31, 2019:

Without examining Stevenson's work I would defer to Occam's Razor. Why just these 3,000? Why don't many more show up today? Is there a simpler reason(s)? My mind is open, but I'm not buying just yet.

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 31, 2019:

@JeffMesser I am however disappointed you chose to answer this post and not the other where I try to address you idea.

As an Agnostic I am always interested when the sciemce takes a serious look at a spiritual topic.

jeshuey comments on Oct 31, 2019:

Without examining Stevenson's work I would defer to Occam's Razor. Why just these 3,000? Why don't many more show up today? Is there a simpler reason(s)? My mind is open, but I'm not buying just yet.

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 31, 2019:

@JeffMesser Does not bother me I was just curious as to whether one or the other was a misposting

As an Agnostic I am always interested when the sciemce takes a serious look at a spiritual topic.

jeshuey comments on Oct 31, 2019:

Without examining Stevenson's work I would defer to Occam's Razor. Why just these 3,000? Why don't many more show up today? Is there a simpler reason(s)? My mind is open, but I'm not buying just yet.

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 31, 2019:

@JeffMesser why have you posted this same answer verbatim, in response to two different comments?

As an Agnostic I am always interested when the sciemce takes a serious look at a spiritual topic.

LenHazell53 comments on Oct 31, 2019:

Ian Stevenson is about as credible as Arnall Bloxham (the Erich von Daniken of the Parapsycology world), if this article is to roll him out as their best evidence in the head line for the article I'm not going to waste my time reading it. You may as well refer to Ed and Lorraine Warren or Dixie ...

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 31, 2019:

@JeffMesser Let me see if I have this right, you are proposing that quantum entanglement maybe the cause of reincarnation and or reincarnation? You are proposing that reincarnation is an ethereal form of quantum entanglement where by two minds/or souls separated across time and space are yet entangled and privy to memories and reactionary effect from the other? And somehow you are equating that with the double slit experiment? Because what? You perhaps mean the data package collapses on the "spiritual/ parapsychological level" and sends both waves and particles between the two "entangled minds" via some kind of psychic mobius strip, providing itself with both energy (waves) and substance (particles) in order to bring about the very entanglement effect by reversing cause and effect? If so are suggesting the human "soul" for want of a better word is made up of quarks or a quark or some other subatomic phenomena? Or that Twin souls are made up of the same quanta existing at different points in their individual span of existence? If I have this right it is a fascinating hypothesis but a completely untestable one as things stand and not one that any serious physicist is going to propose as a research project, for which they require funding. It is likely such an idea my only be proven or falsified as a byproduct of more serious study. Could make the basis of a good time travel story though. I still personally feel reincarnation experience is usually the result of cryptomnesia. EDIT by the way you seriously think you can be compared with Galileo and Copernicus for original thinking?

If you were a non believer in religion or god as a child did your school force you to say the Lords ...

bobwjr comments on Oct 30, 2019:

Until middle school then stopped

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 31, 2019:

Same here

I am interested in the afterlife.Any anecdotes,memories,or theories would interest me.

bolivar comments on Oct 31, 2019:

I wish to garner any knowledge of the afterlife as possible.It may be that my partner will not survive for too long-so I ,and he,would like to gather up as much information as possible about what happens after death....for comfort,mainly....which doesn't mean I would jump at anything!

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 31, 2019:

There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that there is one, a fact I find very comforting, the idea of immortality in any form is a nightmare.

This says it all: Sirach 25:12 "Worst of all wounds is that of the heart, worst of all evils is ...

Cutiebeauty comments on Oct 31, 2019:

Calling a woman evil because she's not interested is evil itself...

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 31, 2019:

It does read like the self pity of a dumpee

YAAGER.

WonderWartHog99 comments on Oct 30, 2019:

## Those winning the shot put match.

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 30, 2019:

@Marionville I know but I'm sugar intolerant

I had an interesting conversation today.

olaskillful comments on Oct 29, 2019:

The fact is, most time an atheist should just keep off some argument in public, mostly in the midst of those that can’t process beyond dogmatism chains.

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 30, 2019:

That is not a fact it is an opinion. I had a strong support network of people who helped me transition of of theism and in to reality, I am grateful for that and attempt to emulate their efforts to help me break the very chains you advocate leaving in place.

I had an interesting conversation today.

moosepucky comments on Oct 29, 2019:

Part of being an adult is having to put up with foolish comments. Live with it. 🤐

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 30, 2019:

@moosepucky If you read my previous posts you would know I don't thrust my ***lack*** of beliefs on anyone,(I would have thought someone of your obvious intelligence would have known Atheism is NOT a belief) but if they attempt to thrust their's on me, I will warn them that they really don't want to do that, but if they insist I will engage with them on a factual basis and usually end up seriously damaging their faith. Point 2 is a false dichotomy, because being a pedophile/paedophile is nothing to do with your faith or lack there off it is a mental condition that as we all know is particularly prevalent in members of the clergy of all denominations, perverts do not tend to proselyte and finally if the "christian family" are of a missionary bent you are basically saying is it not better to have your children mental raped than physically raped . Well NO neither is acceptable and both can cause long term trauma. I do not expect you to reply to this since you seem to have lost interest in the conversation and have instead resorted politely insulting me. But for the sake of anyone following the interaction I have had my final say. So good luck to you too

YAAGER.

WonderWartHog99 comments on Oct 30, 2019:

## Those winning the shot put match.

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 30, 2019:

@Marionville I drink the diet version

YAAGER.

WonderWartHog99 comments on Oct 30, 2019:

## Those winning the shot put match.

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 30, 2019:

@Marionville I love Irn Bru

I had an interesting conversation today.

moosepucky comments on Oct 29, 2019:

Part of being an adult is having to put up with foolish comments. Live with it. 🤐

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 30, 2019:

@moosepucky does not alter the fact that it happens and that such people really believe in such immoral cruelty. If you ask a Christian if they believe that they will have one of too reponses A) Yes in which case you then know they are an immoral monster who you should have no place for in your life B) They say "Well I don't personally believe that but it is the will of god" in which case you know they are a hypocrite happy to worship a monster and turn a blind eye to the suffering they believe will fall on BILLIONS of people at the hands of said monster they too are an immoral monster who you should have no place for in your life Or are you the sort of person who is willing to have an utterly cruel theo-nazi as a friend or neighbor so long as you don't know it? I would rather know if a monster is in a position to interact with my grandchildren and make sure that they don't.

Three words: Fundamentalist Religious Right.

mooredolezal comments on Oct 29, 2019:

Because old men want to fuck them.

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 30, 2019:

@SaucyCheryl they may say that but the truth is they don't want their "wives" to have anything to compare them too. "Sheesh Huny a 2 inch penis is huge for any man, consider y' self lucky"

YAAGER.

Cutiebeauty comments on Oct 30, 2019:

Yaager... I've got me a yaager lol... What's the word for a strong woman? Or did they not have strong women back then?

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 30, 2019:

@Cutiebeauty @Marionville So would that be a "Braw lassie"? I never met a Scots or Irish woman who wasn't willing to beat all arm wrestling challenges in a Glasgow or Dublin pub on a Saturday night.

I had an interesting conversation today.

Norman347 comments on Oct 29, 2019:

Doesn't matter what you believe. She has hers and she expressed it. No need to take offense. It hurts no one to do as you did and be civil. I get this from my religious friends. I take it as their way of showing they care. If they didn't they wouldn't say anything. People today seem to be ...

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 30, 2019:

@darthfaja Love your avatar by the way, big Hammer film fan here too :)

I had an interesting conversation today.

Norman347 comments on Oct 29, 2019:

Doesn't matter what you believe. She has hers and she expressed it. No need to take offense. It hurts no one to do as you did and be civil. I get this from my religious friends. I take it as their way of showing they care. If they didn't they wouldn't say anything. People today seem to be ...

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 30, 2019:

@darthfaja A naive attitude to take when such things are still happening in Theocracies and overly religious counties today, such as any country with Shia law and Uganda where government sanctioned mass murder of homosexuals by Christians is so common it does not even make their news and a in a world where even the most progressive country such as the USA permits the selling and preaching to children of a "Holy" book that advocates for slavery, incest, pedophillia, and the murder of children, homosexuals, foreigners, non believers and women.

I had an interesting conversation today.

GreatNani comments on Oct 29, 2019:

You dont have to say anything other than I dont believe that. But thanks anyway.

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 30, 2019:

@808Girl I usually warn them not to go there but if they persist in trying to "save me", then they asked for it.

I had an interesting conversation today.

Meaniebabyinga comments on Oct 29, 2019:

You don't have to be the adult. She knows your views and should respect them just like she wants her views respected. No one should have someone else's views shoved down their throats.

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:

No this sort of "missionary zeal" does not want it's views respected, they want their views ACCEPTED a whole different kettle of fish.

I had an interesting conversation today.

GreatNani comments on Oct 29, 2019:

You dont have to say anything other than I dont believe that. But thanks anyway.

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:

Most of them just take that as a challenge

I had an interesting conversation today.

Norman347 comments on Oct 29, 2019:

Doesn't matter what you believe. She has hers and she expressed it. No need to take offense. It hurts no one to do as you did and be civil. I get this from my religious friends. I take it as their way of showing they care. If they didn't they wouldn't say anything. People today seem to be ...

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:

@darthfaja Mabe not, but back in the day these same people were burning heretics at the stake, and many would again given the chance, and I think you would agree, that sort of behaviour tends to sting a bit

I had an interesting conversation today.

indirect76 comments on Oct 29, 2019:

No, belief in god does not make you naturally condescending.

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:

I respectfully disagree, and I was raised in a very Christian environment, Christians are not only condescending to non Christians but to other "Misbelieving" Christians and to "less holy" members of their own denominations. Even the "best" of them still consider (or are expected to consider) all "others" Hell worthy.

I had an interesting conversation today.

moosepucky comments on Oct 29, 2019:

Part of being an adult is having to put up with foolish comments. Live with it. 🤐

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:

@moosepucky So you would be okay with some Christian ass telling you your children deserve to burn in Hell forever? You are okay with extremism, nationalism, racial purity, ethnic cleansing? All just personal choices? By the way sexuality and gender are NOT a personal choices or preferences.

per·fi·dy /ˈpərfədē/ noun LITERARY noun: perfidy; plural noun: perfidies deceitfulness;...

LenHazell53 comments on Oct 29, 2019:

Perfidious is one of my favourite words. As in the one time common phrase "**Perfidious Albion** is a pejorative phrase used within the context of international relations diplomacy to refer to alleged acts of diplomatic sleights, duplicity, treachery and hence infidelity (with respect to perceived...

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:

@t1nick Albion is an archaic name for England specifically prior to the establishment of the old Kingdoms of Northumbria, Mercia, East Anglia, Essex, Kent, Sussex and Wessex. It is sometimes applied poetically to the whole of the British mainland, but is a claim seriously disputed by the Welsh and Scots. The name was eventually applied only to the area around Glastonbury, Yeovil and Taunton before disappearing from common use altogether.

I had an interesting conversation today.

moosepucky comments on Oct 29, 2019:

Part of being an adult is having to put up with foolish comments. Live with it. 🤐

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:

@moosepucky Tolerance of the intolerable or the intolerant is putting your own head under the heel of the oppressor and inviting them to stamp you silent without complaint.

I had an interesting conversation today.

moosepucky comments on Oct 29, 2019:

Part of being an adult is having to put up with foolish comments. Live with it. 🤐

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:

@moosepucky Why? I had my education interfered with when my mother stormed into my primary school and in front of the class bawled out my teacher for doing her job and telling us human beings are animals, when according to her we are the subject of the divine image and to say otherwise is blasphemy. WHY should my teacher have had to live with that, why should I have had to put up with that and the 14 years plus of Bible mandated SHIT she tried to indoctrinate in to me? No Sir, we do not have to put up with lies, childish delusions, fear based nonsense and fools, when we can speak out against it and invalidate it with facts. If you are willing to live with that for the sake of a quiet life KNOWING it is foolishness, you sir are a coward.

I had an interesting conversation today.

KKGator comments on Oct 29, 2019:

You don't. I refuse to entertain their delusions anymore. If anyone who knows me, who knows I'm an atheist, who still insists on trying to "get through" to me, I'm going to go straight for the jugular. I'm not going to be the bigger person anymore. If they're going to disrespect me, they ...

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:

Well said, I could not agree more

I had an interesting conversation today.

Norman347 comments on Oct 29, 2019:

Doesn't matter what you believe. She has hers and she expressed it. No need to take offense. It hurts no one to do as you did and be civil. I get this from my religious friends. I take it as their way of showing they care. If they didn't they wouldn't say anything. People today seem to be ...

LenHazell53 replies on Oct 29, 2019:

NO, what she is doing is saying if you do not repent you will go to Hell, you need to be saved and I am going to do it. This means she not only believes in eternal punishment for finite offenses, but believes genuinely that @Trussell2069 DESERVES to burn for all eternity for expressing his atheism I find that incredibly evil, almost as evil as worshiping a being you believe would do that to ANYONE, especial for nothing more than not believing in a creature that refuses to prove it's own existence. I never bring the subject up but when and if people insist on trying preaching on me I warn them once that they do not want to discuss this with me, if they still insist they get both barrels of my disgust.